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mashed avocados
There was a can of refried beans that proudly stated “Mexican mashed potatoes”
As long as they are both chunky, I'll allow it.
Melt a big knob of butter in the middle of all of them and inject it my veins. drool
Instead of garnishing with pico you garnish with bacon bits.
Nah, you don't eat mashed taters with thin crisps (corn or otherwise). You could, but typically people don't.
It's a dipper if you use gravey and sausages
It’s a real banger.
Which is why mushy peas are British guacamole:
Damn, I need to do some spiced mushi peas sometime. They seem like with enough msg, black pepper and a bit of cheese they will make a delicious & healthy dip.
More like guac is American hummus, considering chickpeas are one of the oldest domesticated plants we know of.
American??
Like the continent
Yeah fair
Hard to say if it's Irish. It could be. But:
First printed recipe: English author Hannah Glasse published the earliest known recipe for modern mashed potatoes in her 1747 book, The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy.
The recipe: She instructed cooks to boil and peel potatoes, then vigorously mash them with butter, salt, and milk.
Obviously Britain and Ireland are very close to one another, and someone being English doesn't mean they don't have Irish parentage or tutelage or friends. (Even in those days.)
Britain + Ireland are also called "The British isles," so unfortunately for the Irish, even if we disambiguate to include the possibility of it being an Irish creation, it will still be called a "British" dish - which merely makes it look like it's English again, to most people.
Potatoes in Ireland being a result of the Colombian exchange, this is one of those scenarios where you might be able to find an equivalent South American dish from before Ireland had potatoes(wild to think about, right?). The Inca grew potatoes with corn and eggplant for their farming, and it's hard to imagine they ate them raw.
Some googling shows things that all appear to be fusion cuisine, but then any use of tomatoes or potatoes in Europe is fusion cuisine anyway :P
Edit: lmao this entire discussion is hashed out further down anyway, love it
It really doesn't get much better than that. You can substitute milk for cream, and also force it through a sieve to get extra creamy mash, and add a bit of garlic, but well done mash is so simple and good
Mushy peas are just British guacamole
The guac they deserve
I mean, im of the 'poptart is basically a dessert calzone' persuasion, so... yeah, sure why not.
There are differences, but basically yes.
Guacamole isn't eaten on its own or with some form of gravy. Mashed potatoes are. One can argue about open face sandwich vs. burrito and the addition of each to their respective cuisine but that's a hard sell.
FWIW, Avocado toast doesn't factor into the discussion any more then a baked potato would imo.
Mashed potato toast never really caught on anywhere.
Probably that’s a lot of carbs. Avocado has oils and fats and it’s a fruit.
It's times like this that I worry about legalizing weed
Except that Potatoes are from the new world....
Tomatoes are too but are essential for many Italian dishes.
Very true, which makes you think what their food was before they hijacked the tomato.
I shudder just thinking about it.
In the soup, salad, or sandwich alignment it would be soup and so would guacamole.
Bonus points for having O'Brian in there.
Seeing that both vegetables were part of the Columbian exchange and therefore have no pre 1500 European roots it's improper to call any potato preparation 'Irish'.
What and marinara sauce isn't Italian? Mapo tofu isn't chinese? Modern sushi isn't japananese?
Italian cuisine is particularly enjoyable for this. The carbonara sauce was an improvisation by an American army cook, and one of the first recipes had it made with cream.
And part off modern sushi is Norwegian, as they had an excess of salmon they kind of imposed the idea to use it on sushi, which worked.
Chilly peppers in Indian cuisine where introduced by the Portugese
Cuisine is one of the most fusion sensitive bits of culture out there and most claims of originality are bogus in a way.
I don't think a dish has to be 100% original from the domestication of the species of the ingredients all the way to the invention of the dish. I would say it's valid to claim a variation of a dish with just one tiny tweak. Norwegians can't claim the entirety of sushi but they are totally valid in claiming specifically salmon sushi. The French can't claim to have invented neither wheat, flour, bread, the baking of bread in ovens or any of the other steps it took in-between, but they can claim the baguette specifically as a French bread.
I don't think any food type can be claimed by a nation, that idea is very novel. You talk about bread and I think about the quintessential Italian ciabatta bread, which was invented in the 1990's.
But I do really enjoy experiencing different cultures. I don't subscribe to the idea of ownership of any of it by any country or culture. That is all.
The Swedes can keep the entire claim to Surströmming.
That just gets a bad reputation because of non AI slop on social media.
Have you met our Lord and savior hakarl?
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japananese
Lol
Shut up, let me enjoy my bananana in peace.
So nothing can be described as Irish if it didn't exist since the beginning of the earth on the land we could later call Ireland? Or where is the cutoff, the year 1400?
I'm just disputing the started fact that mashed potato is an Irish invention. There's plenty of Irish things after that date, but that's because people didn't really think about 'national' things untill the late 19th century, take the Scottish tartan, fi (which was popularized by an English textile merchant btw).
With that logic any Mexican dish that contains cumin, cilantro, wheat or any dairy product including cheese is not real Mexican.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Cuisine is particularly evolutionary.
The question 'what is Mexican' is particularly dark in this context as the conquistadors managed to wipe it so much of it's people and culture.
I only agree with this line of reasoning because you would have to conclude that there is nothing quintessentially US American with everything coming either from Native American culture (which they reject) or immigrant culture.
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No, since Potatoes are Peruvian, not Irish
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