Shaken let's more ice melt, waters it down more, making it less alcoholic. He wasn't trying to get trashed. He had people to kill.
Shaken allows to make a better mixed vodka martini with potato vodka (the one available when Flemming wrote Bond).
Stirred is better with grain vodka or gin.
Does the alcohol type effect how the ice melts
Ni, but potato vodka is a bit oily.
Aha, a knights of Ni reference !
But the total of alcohol in the drink is the same, isn't it? Just adding more water to it doesn't get you less drunk.
It slows the absorption inside the stomach down a tiny amount. So you don't get drunk as fast. But that is not really important if we are talking about dilution via some additional ice cubes.
Yes it does... That's called Dilution.
You're going to drink the entire drink, dilution would only make you less drunk if you were going to drink a fixed volume
One could argue that most people don’t eat the ice, so if it melted they might have another sip or two before ordering another. Could possibly make the difference of a drink or two over the night.
This is like calories in, calories out and in the real world context matters.
No, that’s not how it works.
If you have 1.5oz of vodka mixed with 3oz of water 94 6oz of water, it makes no difference. You’re still drinking 1.5oz of vodka.
Shaking makes it colder (in my experience) and done well can produce this nice, very fine, ice crystal/frosty layer on top.
I like a nice ice-cold gin martini - this works well with the juniper in gin.
Not to justify Bonds choice in any way - that's a different discussion.
Shaken has little bits of ice and is slightly aerated.
Do you expect Bond to test how effectively his martini breaks down hydrogen peroxide?
I once heard the "shaken, not stirred" line is from the books. So in the books, he is more Bad Ass than gentleman and doesnt give a fuck about society rules. To drink a Martini Shaken was so obviously wrong, the reader knew once more knew, this guys plays by his own rules and standards. I didnt read the books and have no fucking clue about upper class Drinks or behavior, so I cant confirm this :|
Most mixed drinks are shaken, I've never been a martini guy but I'd expect a martini to be shaken.
My understanding is that the phrase is code to identify/activate assets to aid Bond, but at some point along the way the writers forgot that and it turned into Bond being a karen.
I wouldn’t say most cocktails are shaken.
Most spirit heavy cocktails are stirred.
Anything in the Negroni family will be stirred. Anything in the old fashioned family, martini family, etc. Basically any cocktail that is predominantly just spirits.
You shake when you have mixers like citrus, egg, or dairy.
Martinis are normally stirred.
Except... Vodka martini made with potato vodka which is more oily and was the one widely available when Flemming wrote Bond. So you need to shake it for the mix to work properly.
It is possible that Martinis are typically shaken now because of the popularity of James bond for the past several decades?
Martinis are like the Red Stapler.
Never been much of a drinks guy, but I think everything is usually shaken in a cocktail shaker, and has been for many years even before Bond.
That's indeed possible
hydrogen peroxide? I use that to kill fungus gnat larvae and help clean some things. wtf is in a martini?
Ethanol. A disinfectant and neurotoxine. Glad to help.
I mean yeah but I was expecting it to be the only one. I've also only actually seen it being used as a disinfectant in rare no rinse food contact surface sanitizing situations. Mostly I just see peroxyacetic acid.
What next, glycol in my ice cream? That belongs in my tank chiller...
In contrast, make a margarita or espresso martini by stirring the ingredients.
Then try the same drinks made in a shaker
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