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Microsoft develops ultra durable glass plates that can store several TBs of data for 10000 years::Project Silica’s coaster-size glass plates can store unaltered data for thousands of years, creating sustainable storage for the world

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[-] Arondeus@lemmy.ca 222 points 1 year ago

Of all the stuff I've seen in sci fi movies and tv shows, I really didn't think the computer chips on glowing transparent plates was gonna become reality. What a crazy world this is.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 105 points 1 year ago

Here, put this weird glowing crystal into the Heart of Gold's navicom, it contains the location of the long lost planet of Magrathea.

[-] Geriatrickid@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Whoops, sorry, that was my Lincoln Park discography

[-] psyc@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Four score and seven years ago, in the end it doesn’t even matter

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Ahhh Lincoln Park.

The cover band mixing President Abraham Lincolns greatest escapades with the nuwave metal of 2000's Linkin Park. Featuring the Bed Intruder dude.

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[-] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

oh no, not again!

  • A house plant probably
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[-] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Star Trek predicts another future technology; the isolinear chip.

Add: And the chips used on the original series were opaque, but roughly the same size.

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[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

I bet people in the 80's said stuff like this when music started coming out on digital rainbow mirrors (CDs).

[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Nope! The futuristic aspect was that they didn’t jam.

“No more cassette players eating my $8 album!? I LOVE LIVING IN THE FUTURE!”

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[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 195 points 1 year ago

"Project Silica’s goal is to write data in a piece of glass and store it on a shelf until it is needed. Once written, the data inside the glass is impossible to change."

Very important note here.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's Glass-R but fot a few bucks more you can get a Glass-RW

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Just watch out for Glass-RAM, it doesn’t work in most drives.

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 51 points 1 year ago

So it's great for archival storage. This is exactly the type of thing I'm interested in if it was cheap enough.

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[-] Otakulad@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

True, but being very easy to make would hopefully keep costs down, allowing you to have multiple plates.

Also, this may not be for home use but companies that need to store data for years.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 year ago

I could see applications for home use. Media backup comes to mind.

[-] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson is really gonna love this 36K remaster of Shrek. I know I would

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[-] z00s@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

"Bob, why the hell did you format this as 'Jim sux dicks'?! You know that's permanent, right?"

10K years later

Alien captain: Anything to report?

Alien: We need to find a being named "Jim", sir...

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[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the glass is nothing special, each piece would cost cents and be like burning CD's back in the day, except infinitely recyclable.

What's more important is the time and cost to read and write.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Backup wikipedia once a year to a crystal and then civilizations thousands of years from now can comb through it as they wish.

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[-] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago

Archeologist in 1000 years: "this glass has some interesting etching, must have had some religious significance.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Turns out to be the lewd anthropomorphic creatures glass plate

[-] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 19 points 1 year ago

Archaeologist in 1005 years: "We have translated the folder names on this glass storage device! The writings within refer to a important man named "Brazzers", and there is another folder full of his correspondence to his "step sister" and someone named "Milf".

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[-] drivepiler@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Some of the same technology was actually also used to create windows.

[-] GuidoMancipioni@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You can have my upvote, but I'm not happy about it

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[-] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago

Logs into the SilicaArk long term storage system for the first time.

“Welcome Andy, would you like to use the optimistic theme or the pessimistic theme?”

Chooses optimistic. Types in command to show storage capacity.

“The glass is half full.”

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[-] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're called isolinear chips.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Didn’t someone make a holographic cube some ten or so years ago with the same promises.

I never get excited by this stuff. If I see it in Best Buy, then I’ll believe it.

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[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Awesome. So Microsoft, does this mean I'll finally get access to the other 3TB of OneDrive storage that I pay for on my family plan? Or do I still have to create random accounts that would simulate other family members in order to use it?

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[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

That's a lot of start menu ads and telemetry code!

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[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Was it minority report or the matrix that showed humans storing data on glass?

Either way, this is pretty cool.

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[-] centof@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

It seems like it would make for a great replacement for Tape Backups that are currently used for long term storage. They are easy to write to but hard to read from and restore. It'll probably be a great technology to put backups on especially if it lasts as long as they say. The challenge will probably come in with the specialized reading and writing laser / microscopes being expensive.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

According to the article, they're using their AI cloud service to decode the data, so it's also likely so computationally expensive to decode that it won't be practical. Seems more like a gimmick to woo investors that won't actually ever see real world use, at least not any time soon. I suppose you could make the argument that you can back up data on it now, and hope reading it becomes more practical later, but then it's more of a supplement to tape backup, rather than a replacement.

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[-] wason@lemmy.ninja 22 points 1 year ago

So I read many times that it can store "several TBs of data" but how many exactly? 2, 3, 5, 10?

Do they know exactly? Is it possible that they write 5 TBs and when they try to read it, they can only read like 3, losing the other 2 TBs?

[-] knotthatone@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

They're being so vague with the numbers that I really doubt how mature any of this is. Given some of the examples (photos, music, War & Peace) I'm guessing 3TB or so, but it's a fluff article, so who knows.

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[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

MS: it can last for 10000 years!

Me: have you tested that

MS: well no b-

Me: your company is not even 50 years old

MS: but we ran the simulations

Me: ...

I really hate this like 'in my imaginary world, where everything is perfect and not as much as an atom of dirt comes into contact with the product, and therefore nobody uses the product while it is sealed in a vacuum chamber, then hypothetically it will still be good in a billion years. MTBF = infinity. ship it.'

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[-] Dra8gin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

I remember when they told us a CD would last for hundreds of years LOL

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[-] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Is this what Hal 9000's memories were stored on?

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Finally. I can store my porn in my glasses.

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[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

So... all the from Star Gate glass stuff might be quite accurate?

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[-] madis@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Is it durable just because it's thick, or can we use this tech in mobile screens too?

[-] crawley@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's that type of "durable." I think they mean you can read from it forever without having to rewrite the data, which currently isn't true of platter and solid state storage. This isn't screen technology, though, it's storage technology, so I'm not sure the comparison is useful.

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[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago

It's fairly easy to store data for a very long time. What's hard is remembering how to read that data after all that time.

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