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[-] uriel238 1 points 5 hours ago

I had figured it would, once gambling regulations were bypassed, and no-one recognized that gambling houses make for a moral hazard.

For a long time the US economy has depended on companies exploiting human cognitive biases and addictive mechanisms, from selling booze to bank service fees, to click-wrapped ToS agreements, and yes, to gambling.

There's a reason we regulated it, much the way we regulate advertising so that it's not deceptive.

One beef is the slop of fear and rage that is used to sell far right news media. FOX News even encourages its viewership to abandon all over news sources, like an abusive domestic partner.

If we don't figure out a way out of it, so that confidence ploys and cognitive manipulation for profit are once again regarded as foul play and business in bad faith, then we're just going to be owned by the ownership class. Literally.

But they're not very smart, so they'll not do a thing to address the climate crisis.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago
[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

There's no hope for this place. May our children forgive us.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Kinda hope they don’t. The US was equipped with plenty of ways, even through the propaganda, to dodge the evil bullshit and the country just keeps barrelling towards hell. And here in Canada we’re doing the same thing, arguably worse because the US is RIGHT THERE and we’re like “nah, I’m not going to learn from those mistakes actually.”

Canada and the US do not deserve forgiveness. May our children survive us, and may they have the strength to hate all the conservatives, “centrists”, and politically ignorant people who sold their lives to a handful of the most stupid, greedy, and dweeby fucks the human race has ever produced.

[-] pipi1234@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

What a deranged headline.

Its comparison is nonsensical.

No sane person gambles for entertaining purposes.

People gamble because they are addicts or in need of money.

[-] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 15 points 18 hours ago

The sports gambling apps will be the number one cause of divorce in the US one day. The sheer number of married men betting on them..

[-] vapordays@leminal.space 5 points 14 hours ago

healthy society, good economy

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 108 points 1 day ago

The word is 'lose', not 'spend'.

[-] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 day ago

And 'addiction', not 'favourite pastime'.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago

No, spend is right. The number being compared against is the amount spent on gambling. Obviously some of those bets won, so the amount lost would be far less.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

Most gambling winnings go right back into gambling and are subsequently lost.

I would be surprised if it was “far less” although mathematically it must be strictly less.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Say I started with $100 and made a bet but only won 90 back. Then the next day I do it again with my 90, but only win 80 this time. Repeat this until I have $10 left, I bet that and lose it.

By your logic, I’ve lost $550, since thats the amount of money I’ve bet over the week and a half. In reality, any sane person would say I’ve lost $100.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

In other words, the average American adult placed roughly $1,000 in legal bets on sports last year. Handle is gross throughput, not consumer expenditure: over 90% of what is wagered gets returned to bettors in the form of winnings. That $1,000 in bets translates to roughly $100 in average losses per adult.

But it does point out the vast majority of the losses are absorbed by 5% of gamblers.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

All fair points. I just object to people breathlessly putting out stories like this as if it a good thing and anything other than gambling at best, and insider trading at worst. The only people winning on those sites are the people with inside information.

(edit: fixed typos)

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 21 points 1 day ago

yeah, they would be better advised to throw their money into the garbage, at least that way they wouldn't make some rich asshole even richer.

[-] xylol@leminal.space 7 points 19 hours ago

Nice try big garbage industry man

[-] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 10 points 18 hours ago

Americans love the surprising new hobby of shooting up fentanyl, spending more on it than food or housing!

[-] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 22 hours ago

I hate this country more every day

[-] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 16 points 20 hours ago

Yeah in part that is because it isn't a pastime it's a full blown life crippling addiction for a lot of people.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

The language they use in this article pisses me off too.

This shit isn't healthy and talking about it like it is a healthy behavior is very irresponsible on the part of the media.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 day ago

This is a very American thing.

Measuring popularity in terms of money spent.

By this metric, spending time with loved ones or going for a short walk has zero popularity.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Spoiler: This is how GDP works too. Didn't make any money? It's not considered real work. EVERYTHING in the US serves capital - not people.

I think it's relevant when comparing to other popular entertainment like going to the movies which is another big capitalist institution.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 12 points 22 hours ago

Not really. The time to money ratio is so different for all of them and there's no way to compare.

I spend $20 and go to the movies and that's it. I'm there for 2 hours no more money spent.

I spend $20 on sports betting and ten minutes later I can do it again and ten minutes later I can do it again and again and again. I know people who drop hundreds every weekend on it. I literally can not spend enough time in a theater to drop the same amount of money.

Well that's a different question, which one is more dangerous to personal finance or something like that, but in terms of macro economics what matters is dollars spent. Depends what question you're trying to ask, yes I think corporations should be categorically banned from touching anything relating to gambling because as you alluded to, it's one of the most destructive "recreational" activities.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Well... you don't get money back from movies, arts, museums, or music, but there is a miniscule chance you could from gambling.

With the economy the way it is, it's more likely people are just desperate. And some are definitely addicted, of course.

[-] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, this unfortunately. Too real

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Gambling should be banned. And not just the prediction markets and sports-book, but the lottery too.

It's just theft with extra steps.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 13 hours ago

Yea it’s one of the few things I’m like nope, should be illegal fully don’t give a fuck.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

I call lottery the math tax

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Don't forget the stock market.

[-] Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 2 points 13 hours ago

Bread and games...

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 37 points 1 day ago

Sign of a real healthy society, that.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 7 points 20 hours ago

Yup. More people are desperate and are trying for a chance to “win it big” and get out of the situation they’re in. Whereas art, museums, etc. doesn’t help an immediate living situation and gets deprioritized

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago
[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The amount of money spent doesn't really accurately represent how much a past time is "liked", since money (obviously) isn't distributed evenly. A more useful metric would be how much time people spend doing this in comparison to the other options, which is impossible to measure. Also in theory it could be literally 1 or 2 people doing the gambling if they have enough money, while everyone else goes to museums and listens to music.

It's even more true with the other options not being exactly expensive (in particular museums, but the other options are will). Try spending 50k $ gambling: no problem. Try spending 1k $ going to museums: you'll be busy for 2 years or something.

Basically the whole premise is just dumb.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

To make everyone feel even more awful, the "commercials before the movie" will probably start to have "financial engagement opportunities" as the theater houses look to try to stay alive. Pro sports venues will make it more "in your face" and offer discounts on food if you are wagering or better seats or free game tickets or some shit. Books, well most Americans don't read as adults so I think that'll continue it's current state at least. Live theater could wager on what color Hamlet's scene two entrance clothes will be....at the end of the day they'll probably hop on for survival since many of their patrons or past donors are similarly disengaging.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Currently most are doing 50/50 raffles, but it's still gambling.

[-] magic_smoke 8 points 21 hours ago

I don't gamble but at that same time, I can't pirate gambling.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You could though. You could run a knockoff gambling site that doesn’t actually cost (or give) you any money.

The irony of gambling is that it’s the opposite of other media; the addictive part is paying for it.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 14 points 23 hours ago

Anything but vote for somebody to tax wealth instead of work.

[-] vapordays@leminal.space 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Who can I vote for that would actually do that?

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Gambling always goes up as the economy gets worse for the average worker.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I can hear Ronnie Chieng and Michael Kosta: "Brought to you by Gambling. Gambling! The fun way to sell your house!"

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

Join me at the table if you'd like to place a bet

All the cash that's filling your pockets is waiting to be spent

I know you've never played but drinks are free, its so bizarre

And even if you lose a few chips, it's cheaper than the bar

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