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[-] wahming@monyet.cc 63 points 1 year ago

I see nobody in the comments actually bothered reading the article. It's not that cat meat is illegal, it's that they were passing it off as pork and beef. Also some speculation that the cats might have been stolen

[-] UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world 13 points 1 year ago

Also some speculation that the cats might have been stolen

Almost has to be the case. There is a reason no one farms cats as meat, they are obligate carnivores that will eat more meat than they ever produce. It isn't economical to produce cats for meat if you have to actually feed them. It only makes sense to "harvest" them wild on the streets or from kitten mills, shelters, vets, wherever you find spare cats in China.

Framing animals for meat only really makes sense if those animals eat lower on the food chain. Turning grass / grains into meat makes sense. Turning meat into meat doesn't, especially since the cats would pretty much have to be eating more desirable meat that they produce. Imagine feeding pork, fish, and chicken to cats in order to make cat meat.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That's where the stolen rats come in...

[-] Frozzie@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago
[-] wahming@monyet.cc 21 points 1 year ago

From the article, the crime is not that they are selling cat meat, but that they're mislabelling it as pork and beef

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

And doing so for profit...

[-] steven@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I read the title as "saving cats from being slaughtered and sold as [...] meat".. When will police start heroically saving the millions of pigs or cows from being sold as whatever meat?

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

cats and dogs matter, but cows, chickens, lambs, sheep, pigs etc don't matter. Yep. Makes sense :/

They all have the same capacity to suffer. So why look after some animals but not others?

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

From a pure practical standpoint, it doesn't make sense to eat carnivores. Terrible feed conversion. We don't want to raise meat to feed it to meat. Traditionally, ruminants were a way of converting inedible grass into nutritious meat and dairy.

Also, carnivores are a lot harder to handle... They bite! Cats jump and dogs dig. I farm. The livestock stay inside the fence, cats and dogs go where they please.

The animals in your first list are carnivores (cats are an obligate carnivore) while the second list are herbivores or omnivores that do well on a vegetarian diet. That's why we eat the second list and not the first.

Also humans like dogs, they're a lot like us despite being a smelly 4-legged bitey critter. It's quite odd, really. We've evolved together for millennia at this point. More so than any other species on earth, dogs have a place in our society alongside humans, with their own jobs and skill sets.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I lived in a few places in China for a year. This is either new, or completely fake. If cats and dogs were sold/eaten for food they would be in the market next to the turtles, above the fish tanks, and under the pigeons. Not a joke.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

My bullshit detector is going off hard over this article, and I'm a vegetarian. With those disclaimers out of the way, if you think the suffering of a cat and cow are equal, and accept that some people are going to eat meat, you get a hell of a lot more meat out of a cow than a cat.

[-] gabbagabbahey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

But cat is cheaper. It grows for free in the city.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Indian city cows grow for free too

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Eating someones pet is different than eating an animal being raised to be eaten. For starters you have to kidnap the pet.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

how is it different? They all have the same capacity to suffer. They're all living, breathing beings. They all experience pain and suffering. How's it different?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

They all have the same capacity to suffer.

why should that matter?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Because appealing to and manipulating your emotions is the only way that fella can alter your behavior in the way they see fit.

They don't approve of your autonomy.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

what about the autonomy of the animals we keep locked up on farms?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I just talked with a farm chicken and they seemed okay with it. Have you bothered to ask these animals how they feel about it or are you just projecting your own values onto them?

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've personally been to factory farms. The animals are far from okay with it.

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[-] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In this case we're talking literal stolen pets though.

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

The animal kidnapping. It directly hurts the owner. A farmer doesn't really get sad when the lambs go to slaughter.

[-] Frozzie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Right ? I should be allowed to abuse and manipule people freely if I label them as "Slave" !

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Okay. That's just a really bad argument. Stealling someones cat and killing the cat is bad. You directly hurt the owner and the animal.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

God you guys are insufferable.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just wondering how you get enough meat off a cat that it's worthwhile. Most livestock are herbivores because herbivores are larger and much easier to feed. Cats are obligate carnivores, even if you're feeding them scrap meat you're going to wind up with them eating far more meat than they produce and I can't imagine that they produce much usable meat. It just seems like it would be easier and cheaper to just raise actual pigs than to try and get the same amount of meat off of a bunch of cats.

[-] UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago

I doubt they are farming the cats so much as collecting them from the streets and everywhere else.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Even so rounding up a bunch of cats still seems like the most high effort way to get meat compared to literally any other animal. Even just talking about wrangling strays, dogs seem like a better choice because then you at least get a bit more meat. Cats just don't seem like they would have enough usable meat to even be worth the effort of butchering them. Unless these are some especially chunky feral cats, all the ones I've seen are basically just fur and bone.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

It's pretty easy to trap feral cats. Feral dogs are less common and harder to deal with. It really only takes bait as a recurring expense, at about say 10 cents per cage to get 1-2 pounds of meat that is worth at least $1per pound is pretty good return.

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

They probably also get their children to do it and the cost of meat there is probably a good bit more expensive compared to income than somewhere like the US.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

So what is the police going to do with the cats now?

[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm vegan btw

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