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[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pros: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie with modern fx.

Cons: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie, with ancient overdone tropes, including the racist ones.

[-] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

oh come on, what racist tropes now?

[-] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean the Na'vi are an infantilized hodgepodge of several shallow stereotypes of indigenous people precision designed to be sexy so the lowest common denominator sympathizes with them. The commenter may be referring to that.

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[-] BeansPurkeypile@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

We're literally in decade four of people underestimating James Cameron

[-] Rinna@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

I'm assuming the sequel is also forgettable considering that I've barely heard a thing about the plot.

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The plot is FUCK YOU THIS WHALE IS GONNA RIP SOME GUYS ARM OFF IN 3D AND IT'S FUCKING DOPE

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Oshit I guess I better watch it.

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[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[-] HexBee@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

No no no no, it doesn't just have a plot. It has the same plot even with all the same protagonists and antagonists.

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[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I forgot/possibly never knew Avatar 2 had come out

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

It was good, really enjoyable in 3D Imax.

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's beautiful, but the story is weak af and it takes an hour too long to look at water

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[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

My wife and I started watching the second avatar and we turned it off about 90 minutes in, just couldn't be bothered to care or watch it any more. And we never finished it. What a piece of crap

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

Watched it in IMAX 3d with my kid. It ruled, so much fun to watch. Will never watch it again though, and certainly never at home. That defeats the entire purpose.

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[-] jcdenton@lemy.lol 21 points 2 years ago

I don't know a single person who's ever seen it

I don't know how it made so much money. I guess people are seeing it and not talking about it?

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is precisely it. Avatar had originally the exact same problem that the Way of the Water has now. They're tech demos. Interesting, pretty, they move people to see what's what on the theater. But, offer close to nothing emotionally or culturally resonant. It's like a generic roller-coaster, you show up, enjoy the ride, then go get some fries having nothing deeper to say about the experience because the experience doesn't offer anything deep. It doesn't mean the movies are bad or that they weren't enjoyable, that's why they made so much money. But there's no conversation to have around them except to remark on how much they cost to make, or how did the CGI looked like or whether other studios will use the tech invented for this movie on other movies. Plot, characters and symbolism are shallow pools. Specially to an audience that is sick and tired of mega blockbuster sequels.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 2 years ago

Made three out of the top four grossing movies of all time.

I don't really like any of them, but you can't argue with the results. The man knows how to put bums on cinema seats.

[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

It was such a bad movie too. Dude was really just like "let's remake the first movie, but wetter"

[-] Johnvanjim@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Wait for the next sequel, "let's remake both movies, but hotter"

[-] swab148@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago

And then, "Let's remake them all, but earthier"

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[-] doktorseven@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I've always called bullshit on the second movie making that much damn money. There's no way. Not nearly that many people cared about it at all, I seriously think somebody faked that attendance.

[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Take your meds.

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

The franchise is huge in China. Just because your group didn’t like it doesn’t mean they are faking anything

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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Also: deep sea explorer done right and not implode himself by sparing expense.

[-] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I mean it's more Fern Gully than pure Pocahontas.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

So it may have taken 13 years to come back with a sequel that no one asked for and no one expected. But at least he gave us something. Unlike a certain South African director that shall remain nameless...3 years my ass...

[-] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I'm out of the loop, is this about Blomkamp?

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[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Wasn't it blue Dances With Wolves?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

More like Smurfs with Ferngully

[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Last of the Smurfhicans

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

He can't keep getting away with it!

I feel like there was a good movie in Avatar 2 but a lot of the scenes looked like they didn't render them fully. The FPS changes felt random. If they'd done ALL action in 48 and ALL dialogue in 24 it wouldn't have been as bad.

The scenes of the kids rescuing the parents were so gorgeous. Stunning. But compare that to the scene of the boat jumping and crashing? Insane how shitty it looked.

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

There are quite a few more sequels in planning

[-] ares35@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

it's up to five films total, now. the remaining three with tentative release dates stretching from 2025 to 2031. cameron has a plan for a further two more but disney hasn't committed past the fifth one---yet

[-] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Avatar 3: The Way of Earth

Avatar 4: The Way of Fire

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Avatar 5: way of the stayin alive ha ha ha staying alive

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

Avatar 5: The Last ~~Airbender~~ Avatar

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

13 years!!?? Fuuuuck.

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[-] johnyrocket@feddit.ch 6 points 2 years ago

Main character

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

whenever I feel stupid I remember that it took Cameron 13 years to think "but what if water instead of trees"

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Um... I wasn't aware that it was humanly possible to have a 12 pack. I didn't know that humans even have that many muscles on the front of their abdomen.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

James needs to hydrate.

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