What country are u in that u have to go through whatsapp? Have only ever used my personal cell for stuff like this, if I have to download an app to do something you can bet I ain't doing it lol. If there's anything I have learned its that if it needs an app, it doesn't fucking work.
Could be germany. WhatsApp is very widely used here, because back then in the olden days SMS flat rate was expensive. And WhatsApp was ideal, because it worked even on throttled data rates, so you could use it even if you ran out of data. So making it basically a free alternative to SMS.
Interesting! I didn't even have a phone with data until after the unlimited minutes and texts were standard on most plans lol.
My take on this one (as a prospective home buyer) is that I don't want to have to deal with real estate agents at all, particularly if they demand to be paid on commission; When they're paid on commission, they benefit by being lazy and not attempting to negotiate down the price of the home. I home that real estate agents are automated away in the future.
This happening eventually is why we switched all our convos to signal last year.
I said whatsapp is not safe once. Glad (and horrified) to see I was correct. P2P encryption means nothing if the clients just report the data out via a side-channel once decrypted.
I'm hoping the age of self hosted chat platforms comes to fruition and I can get Meta the fuck out of my life, but it's currently a hard sell between by friends
This is the fault if everyone who let monopolistic proprietary tech become important. Basically everyone.
So I'm just gonna laugh at this shit, because it was earned and I told you so.
I bet it is fun to ignore the reality of things to be an condescending asshole to people on the internet.
Sorry I gave a shit too early and have memory retention better than a carnival goldfish.
Caught a lot of abuse trying to do my part to stop this, so my failure has some of the character of revenge. Suffer; you earned it.
So, let me make sure I got that right: you tried to convince people WhatsApp was bad. You obviously failed.
Will you take responsibility for your failure?
No?
So why should the OP do?? Do you have any clue about him promoting WA? For what we know, he could also have been one advocating for alternatives.
caught a lot of abuse
Sorry, fuck off and die. This is your fault. If you were sounding alarms since the first time you saw Facebook I apologize, but otherwise fuck you. I don't want to be sainted, but I do generally want an apology for people like me from people like I assume you are, who never tried to get people to stop using Facebook windows Google Apple etc.
You never got abused by "people like me". I was on the side anti-Meta and others.
So no, I don't owe you shit, and sorry to say that, but you taking on the OP makes you just what kind of person? You didn't care about how he got in this situation. You don't care if I was or not one who "abused you". You just decided to lash out at people randomly.
I wish you to get better.
Person had already surrendered to Facebook. Surprised by whatsapp's algorithms being stupid evil.
ignore the reality of things
The reality is that Meta is in a position of power that is a threat. Society is ignorant about it. A little bit condescencion from the high road should be considered helpful.
The reality is that Meta is in a position of power that is a threat. Society is ignorant about it.
yes
A little bit condescencion from the high road should be considered helpful.
no
no
What else could wake people up?
This is the fault if everyone who let monopolistic proprietary tech become important. Basically everyone.
That includes you
Welp, here's the thing. Real estate agents typically like getting paid. So I figure if you tell them "Hey, I don't have whatsapp. Let's email or text instead.", they would do it, because a sale is a sale. They aren't agreeing to give anything up. And it's a very temporary situation from their perspective.
Also, I find it wild that meta (facebook), which owns whatsapp, controls the platform that an entire country relies on for any communication within an industry that dictates where you live. That is crazy. That feels like a lot of corruption must have had to happen for that to have happened.
WhatsApp has market share from the momentum gained in countries that didn’t have free/cheap SMS. I too find it wild that it’s the default in most of the world, and it’s super shady and super proprietary. The messaging that we have in the US is far far far from perfect, but at least it’s not Facebook Chat.
Also, that momentum was gained before whatsapp was bought by Facebook
Dumbfucks. Corporations will always be bought by worse corporations, and if you don't understand that, you deserve to suffer.
Plus in markets like Brazil, having unlimited use of WhatsApp services, including video calls, is a selling point for most cellular providers. You will have a data cap but could still video call your grandma on WhatsApp when you're out of data. Every business has their WhatsApp number posted out front and on their websites/social media.
For example, here is Claro, a large Brazilian phone company's cheapest current plan, 36GB of data but unlimited WhatsApp usage and 5GB for social media.
(Translated from Firefox)
Yep! That's why net neutrality is so important.
If we could just get people to use Signal.
I've never used Whatsapp and never will do.
Team Signal since the time it was called Textsecure 🫡
Then again I don't rely on Whatsapp to stay housed 😐
If you have 100 applications per apartment and only one wants to do it via e-mail, then we both know what’s going to happen.
In the country I live you can‘t pay to real estate agents (it‘s prohibited). They are getting paid by the landlords, plus the rental market is pretty scarce so usually they don‘t give a fuck about you as they have a ton of inquiries from other potential renters
That's actually infuriating. The fact that the real estate landscape is based on Whatsapp should just be illegal. Don't agree with whatsapp T&C? Go homeless. Do we need to remind who is whatsapp?
Same with cellular providers giving unlimited data on Whatsapp on a 25GB plan. Straight to jail.
Fuck Meta... What's wrong with email? You're free to choose your provider, and it's more convenient than a mess of WhatsApp messages. All communication I've had with real estate agents in Australia has been via email.
Second time* I saw Meta mentioned here, did Meta buy WhatsApp?
Lol yes
So uh, is Facebook messenger just Whatsapp with a different logo then? (Sorry don't use any of these apps so I would have never noticed, haha)
Are you copy-pasting the same message across many chats? If so, try varying them a little.
Bullshit, I know.
Meta is changing how they price messages sent on the WhatsApp Business API (they'll start charging for every single message now) and lately they've gone haywire trying to ban unofficial WhatsApp Automation services.
If you try to use their crap even a little faster than the average Joe, you get caught in the crossfire.
If you send the same message across a couple contacts it's already enough to flag you (especially in your case, since you're likely sending messages to contacts you never spoken to before, right?)
And if you're using WhatsApp Web it's even worse.
And now that your account already got restricted once, it's likely to keep getting worse unless you can afford to not use WhatsApp for like, a week for your number to "cool down"
I too wish my country's communications wasn't so Intertwined with this garbage.
I was looking at visiting Costa Rica for a bit, read that even restaurants were using WA for orders. I couldn't imagine relaying on Facebook's company policy for my business
My 6 year old snap account for banned for "prohibited drug content" I'm Canadian and all I've ever done is share videos of me blazing to friends. Thankfully I have contact with the people that mattered via other means, still doesnt mean it doesn't suck
Since when did real estate parasites, I mean agents, stop taking phone calls?
I get 3 cold calls a day from agents asking if I want to sell.
I'm proud of you for just being mildly infuriated about this. I'd be pure rage monster. You've got the patience of a saint!
Pal, you're a few decades late to the Facebook sucks conversation.
This is the reason you don't 'sign in with Google' or Meta or whatever.
This is the reason digital infrastructure should be controlled by the commons. And punishment for misbehaving users should be decided by the state according to due process in a procedurally fair manner, not by corporations that seek to maximize profits.
God what's up sucks I hate it like so much anytime any of my clients request that I use what's happened just makes me cringe so fucking much. Just let me text you like a normal person rather than using some third party bullshit app.
Yep this has been happening to me as well. I really want everyone to start using Signal but trying to convince people is like pulling teeth. It's infuriating. WhatsApp fucking sucks.
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