Hey I need a 35% tip for this comment since there's no minimum wage for commenting.
“If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out!”
Both true
And they'll guilt trip you if you don't tip because apparently it's YOUR fault that they don't eat tonight for not tipping (and not their employer's for not paying a living wage).
Preface: I'm in favor of employers paying employees (and contractors) a living wage
One could argue that an owner, under capitalism, could choose to pay the employees a living wage instead of enrich themselves and expect the customer to cover for what they are not paying. You know, you live under capitalism but you are not forced to behave as a capitalist pig...
Capitalism relies on exploitation of workers regardless. Even if they’re getting paid a “living wage”, they’re still expected to cough up any extra money they got through their work to the higher-ups who didn’t even do anything laborious. That makes them “capitalist pigs” even if they’re not quite Jeff Bezos.
You knew they were being exploited and ate there anyway.
I don't live in the us nor I plan to visit them anytime soon.
But even then, it's not my job to go figure if an employer pays their workers a living wage before going there. However, you don't have to worry about me not tipping because, as I said, it's not in my plans to visit that shithole. So I won't have to figure if people are getting paid where I go to eat.
If it's a restaurant with table service and they're not bragging about how much they're paying their employees, they're exploiting them.
I mean, they're exploiting them either way, but they're not paying them 2.13 an hour and expecting tips to make up the rest.
I still fail to see how is that my problem. I don't live in the US so I don't have to tip waiters for them to make a living when I go out to eat.
And, again, it's not on me. If the owner is not paying them a living wage in the US, I don't see how is it the customer's fault and responsibility to cover for what the owner is not paying.
And, again, it’s not on me. If the owner is not paying them a living wage in the US, I don’t see how is it the customer’s fault and responsibility to cover for what the owner is not paying.
It's the customer's responsibility to avoid places that exploit their workers.
You know what happens if the tips don't make up the rest right? Your employer pays it, I'm not saying you're not going to get fired or that there has never been a situation where it's abused but if someone is actually making 2.13 an hour they're being human trafficked.
You know what happens if the tips don't make up the rest right? Your employer pays it,
Legally, they're supposed to, but that never actually happens. Even if the employee knows they should get it and is willing to push the issue, they just get immediately fired.
They could then sue for backpay, but the most that will happen is the employer is forced to pay exactly the amount owed and the lawyer gets a big chunk of that for their fees. Nothing else happens to the employer. That's the best case scenario.
So the solution is as simple as don't tip anymore. If everyone stops tipping, it won't be long before every tip-dependant service worker stops working. And without them, the whole restaurant industry collapses. You'll see a living wage being established in the sector in no time.
Good luck with that. Also, better not ever eat at the same place twice.
You know what happens if the tips don’t make up the rest right? Your employer pays it
They're supposed to. You know what happens when they don't? You will never ever even think of caring.
Literally some buildings have doormen that you are expected to tip. It's insanity
I went to new york years ago, on checkout of the hotel I asked reception if I could store my bags in the hotel as it was hours before we even had to leave for the airport. Followed a guy across the lobby, with me wheeling and carrying my bags, to a door which he opened, put them literally about a metre inside, tagged them and made it clear he wanted a tip. Like... What?
Looking after your bags is a service that isn't actually part of the money you already agreed to pay. They're doing you a small favour.
I'd give the guy a tip in that case.
In most countries that is just a general courtesy... Even in far cheaper hotels.
So how far goes tipping in the USA now? Supermarkets? You go get your driving license and they ask a tip? The landlord wants a tip for collecting rent? You can tip the red light so it turns green earlier?
There are automated kiosks that ask for tips now. Seriously, I wish that was a joke.
If that continues like this, customers are going to demand a tip for not making a scene and the circle is complete
I have heard of people tipping there loan provider. Who is this even going to?
No way that's true
Grocery store baggers used to take your groceries to your car for you and it was customary to tip. I don't know if that happens anymore. You're often expected to ring up and bag your own groceries now.
Oookay sure, I will hold the door 25% open for you in return?
Regular people: Holding the door open for free.
American people: Expecting to get a tip for holding the door 25% open.
Sure I'll tip 85% of nothing.
Everybody shakin ass in merica... A land of low IQ beggers too scared to overthrow the pdfiles. It is tuly a land of despair and a empty vessel of lesser things. A hell for some a circus for others. Too gawd damn stupid to know that they are stupid. A slop bucket of mad haters and cheese burgers. Theses dumpy turds bring down the whole arse world to their deplorable level. This place needs invaded.
Did you take your medicine today
We're Americans we don't hold the door open, that would let the cold AC air out.
I thought Americans would have a go at using AC outside anyway.
Only if we can send the heat to China
I wonder if Hodor got tipped
Bro can we separate Americans the people from us and a the country. People can be good, country yes sucks
Non-tipping country waiters ~"That'll be $89.95 for the chicken parm and Heineken that you ordered after you were sat for 53 minutes before I even acknowledged you."
You don't get out much, do you? It's for the better anyway. Obnoxiously loud USA tourists are annoying enough in their current numbers as it is.
I'm out all the time.
Previously I have been a waiter/bartender/manager, now travel for my new line of work, been to over 20 countries around the world...
I'd say well more qualified than the isolationist downvoters here, to have a real world view of this topic...
In fact, more experienced and qualified in likely ALL topics than the kids on here on Lemmy.
There's a lot of fucking stupid people here with all opinion and no experience.
It's a fuckin laugh most the time. Like these incel tankie types?! 😆 fucking morons.
Anyway, sorry to crash your little circle jerk.
Nope, the service and food still suck with tipping in many places. This is Americope.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
— Mark Twain
