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[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 week ago

We have already lost this war three times.

What are we still doing there???

[-] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 45 points 1 week ago

Experiencing the death throes of a dying global hegemony

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, getting into a war which reveals its hard power as being much less than the image most had of it before and which pisses of its allies, all of this eating away its soft power, it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

... it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.

it really goes to show that capitalism hasn’t broken the cycle since it shares the same fatal patterns as the empires that collapsed before it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Market manipulation and unprecedented levels of historical grift? Oh and sucking Israeli dick, that's a big one.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Looking for the Epstein list?

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think we just like the feel of the pain and we relish in the devastation of loss. There’s no other explanation.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Looks like Iran need to keep teaching the burger reich that it can't fuck around without consequences.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

If they can, they should bomb the absolute shit out of israel. That's the only thing that will put a real stop to this.

[-] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, where's the lie

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

yes please. iran: please strike targets on american soil, too. the US needs to get its teeth kicked in and doing it on “bases” is just stupid.

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

The problem is that might galvanize the population (of the US) and increase support for the war.

[-] PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

That wouldn't affect the war just like lack of support for it didn't, population of US has no say on consequences of the wars their government wages, worrying about their support when it has no effect is meaningless

Let's hope they level the Pentagon to the ground instead of a primary girls only school

[-] Alkali@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I ... Don't believe you are correct here. The US has the most destructive military (non-nuclear) on the planet. The country simply does not have the appetite to actually commit blood, sweat, and money to this war. If they start striking the US, the US people will see it as an existential threat and be far more willing to dedicate as many resources as nessesary to eliminating the threat regardless of the fact that the US started it. That would be bad for everyone, but especially Iran.

It is far better to have the US population largely split in their support for the war effort.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If Iran leveled the pentagon and nothing else I think the average american would support Iran more.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

fair and true point. :/

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Consult a map, or a globe.

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[-] minty@aussie.zone 21 points 1 week ago

America just needs to take the L lmao

[-] formlessoedon@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago
[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

does that mean someone will finally level israel?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago
[-] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

visit https://presstv.com/ for a taste of freedom of speech … US is so free guys

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

what the heck they made presstv.ir inaccessible as well

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

I can access it over Tor with Netherlands endpoint

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Firefox says there's somekind of certificate issue

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Their certificate was revoked (by their certificate authority, Actalis, part of the Aruba Group) on July 6. Presumably the CA was pressured to revoke it by the Italian and/or US government, and they will get a new certificate from someone else soon.

There is a hexbear thread here about it; afaict there doesn't appear to yet be any reporting about it. But in the CRL you can see it was revoked July 6:

$ curl -s http://crl15.actalis.it/Repository/tls-subca-rsa-dv-2025/getLastCRL | openssl crl -noout -text |grep -A 4 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29
    Serial Number: 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29
        Revocation Date: Jul  6 13:54:09 2026 GMT
        CRL entry extensions:
            X509v3 CRL Reason Code: 
                Privilege Withdrawn

The reason "Privilege Withdrawn" means it was the CA's decision rather than their own.

Because certificate revocation has never worked very well, many people can still access it (until their browser fetches the certificate revocation list, or checks OCSP, does some newfangled proprietary other thing i don't understand...).

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

trump really painted himself into a corner here. He's probably starting to think it would've been better to just release all of the trump/epstein files. What a huge colossal waste for everybody on the entire planet.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Get our asses

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately I think this is it for Iran, they can only do two things now: full scorched earth or capitulate. And it's likely going to be capitulate.

They can't tit for tat after today's attacks. The US went after infrastructure this time. If they close the strait again they're prepared to go to full war.

I think. What the fuck do I know. But would bet within 48 hours:

  1. Surrender by the Iranian regime, much better terms than currently negotiated.
  2. US ground invasion to topple the regime.
  3. Iran goes all out closing the strait, bombing everything within reach, fully mobilizing military

Edit: I realize now people are reading this as all 3 will happen which is stupid, but doesn't surprise me.

Looks like number 3 is unfolding

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Iran can keep the strait closed even if the US goes all out, all flattening Iran would do is ensure the strait stays closed long enough for the oil reserves to run out. The US has to know this. The question is if they're stupid enough to do it anyway.

[-] vapor_body@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago
  1. lol
  2. from what bases???
  3. why not just keep drawing it out until the effects are felt down the supply chain? they've been going tit-for-tat so far
[-] tortina_original@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Is this what it looks like when you give ChatGPT to a small child?

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

imagine being this detached from reality y'all

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago
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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago
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[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

they can only do two things now: full scorched earth or capitulate

Why? Dragging this out only helps Iran. Every day the US oil reserves fall further, and Iran makes more missiles and drones and tunnels, and the Gulf States get angrier with Trump for messing up their economies.

Iran doesn't even have to do tit-for-tat attacks or stop every single tanker. They just have to hit enough ships that no one wants to risk crossing without their permission, and prevent the US from returning to and repairing its bases. Both of which they have shown themselves capable of doing.

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