Okay, but StatCounter's graph (edit: here) clearly shows that "unknown" is what's cannibalizing most of that – and this is specifically measuring web traffic.
"Lemmy celebrates the rise of bots polluting web traffic stats because they didn't bother to read the article beyond a misleading headline that reaffirms their biases."
Looking at the included chart (below), I don't think the growth in "unknown" is the primary factor of Window's decline in market share. The chart does show, over the last two data points, that Mac OS and Linux have increased at the same time that Windows has decreased.
This is all but one data point anyway, so it's not fair to draw a long-term conclusion based on that regardless.
Those "last two data points" are two months. For OS X, there's some upward movement the last two months (about 3%, which isn't a lot given it spiked late last year from 8.3% to 14.07% to 8.2% in a span of three points), while Linux is practically flatlined with a very light upward incline just the last month.
To the extent StatCounter is useful to begin with, the Linux point is functionally meaningless while the OS X increase of a few percentage points may or may not be significant; trying to divine a trend from twitches in those two points is reading noise. Look at the "unknown" line, meanwhile, and see how it begins mirroring Windows' decline around mid–late 2025. It rose from 11.3% in September 2025 to 21.5% in June 2026. That represents actual, meaningful, lasting change.
Yes, that's pretty much what I said in the line of text under the graph.
You completely debunk the idea that "I don't think the growth in "unknown" is the primary factor of Window's decline in market share." in the same comment you said it? Because what you said makes absolutely no sense in the face of the actual numbers.
I expound on the two points because you can't just rest your argument on them and then limply, vaguely disclaim that it's terrible methodology.
Bruh people on Lemmy say the most mind-numbing things
Thank you for demonstrating.
I'm not seeing much of an increase there for Mac or Linux. I'm not sure how you drew those conclusions from this graph.
This is a zero sum graph, as market share must add to 100%. You may observe that the one large decrease in Windows market share occurs at the same time as three small increases for Mac OS, Linux, and "unknown".
Nothing else increased. The three small increases must be equal to the Windows decrease.
Idk why everyone is always looking at statcounter. I still feel like Cloudflare probably has better data.
It feels like macOS is somehow over represented there. Specially for a global statistic. In many countries macs are completely residual, where I live I almost know more people using linux than mac.
Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of bot traffic masquerading with a macOS user agent
Makes sense, no commercial site wants to block rich people
MacOS at 20% globally does seem to be extremely high. I would have expected something like 15 at most.
These are http requests, so it could be inflated from the larger proportion of software engineers using macOS, who also make significantly more requests than average, including in their usage of ai...
Maybe countries where macs are more popular throw it off. But I'd be surprised if even the US was over 20% for Mac (but not iOS).
Yep, seems about right.
The only thing this does not count are the offline devices. But in todays day and age, how many don't connect to the internet in some way or form?
Offline devices would be either air gapped old windows or stability Linux, probably Debian.
Whats up with android and iOS? They are counted, since they have their own colors, but shouldnt they be quite visible? I have a hard time believing there is more linux/macOS than android/iOS out there
Device type of Desktop answers that I think...
Whoopsiedoodles, my bad
This graph is like trumps approval rating
Well I can't speak for the whole world but by my Windows usage dropped 100% from 2025 to 2026.
Quick add more dogshit unwanted features and spyware to extract the maximum value out of customers over the short term!
"Unknown" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
It looks like Windows computers is going to unknown. So they are just bad at detecting OS.
Incoming rename to Copilot OS.
I dual boot my AsshairTrimmer with CopilotOS and Arsch btw.
Aren't they making a CopilotOS?
I'm not surprised. Between privacy concerns, forced features, and Linux becoming easier to use, the barrier to switching is lower than it used to be.
I just Minted my old laptop that I last used like.. 2-3 years ago to try out Ubuntu (which didn't go well.) The progress is huge and I'm really very confused on how well things work now, even all my games on Steam?? When did this all happen?? Gonna make the switch on my main PC in few weeks.
Proton has been a huge game changer tho
That number seems rather low. I can see that number for overall OS share, including mobile devices, but for desktop I'd expect Windows to be a lot higher.
EDIT: Thinking about it further, if you included mobile devices, then Android would have to be even higher than Windows is here. Either way, these numbers look off.
Even if the numbers are a little off, that's a wonderful sight. Those of us using Linux for decades it feels like the early days of the internet when AOL users came flooding in.
StatCounter lists OS X at 11.89% and macOS at 4.48% for June 2026
What?
Wow, breaking 15%. :blinking-guy:
Os x is the older name for it and likely un upgraded devices. Macos is the current name for it and newer, upgraded os's.
That was what I couldn't believe that 3/4 of all Macs today are running a 10 years old version of Apples Operating system.
Some people just never update
I'd take that with a big pinch of salt since the shortfall is "unknown". Probably means they're picking up a fuck ton of bot traffic and there's nobody at the wheel over at StatCounter...
In the chart “unknown “ has an impressive share is it any good?
Nobody knows, hence the name.
I will switch to a computer for work with Linux or MacOS. The current situation with Windows is not OK. You need to get your shit together again basically.
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