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The real travesty hear is that there was a 29-year incumbent in the first place. Congress desperately needs term limits.
Congratulation to Melat Kiros, this just proves what I've so often claimed here on Lemmy.
That the best bet for change, is to become a member of the Democratic party, and help change it from within.
If only more young people saw this reality rather than the moronic:
"DEMS BAD! LET DEMS LOSE TO FASCIST TO TEACH DEMS LESSON! OH WAIT, WHY ARE WE NOW COMMITTING 500 MORE GENOCIDES AND NO LONGER HAVE FAIR ELECTIONS?"
Nobody is saying that, they're saying to set a minimum standard to vote democrat so that candidates like this get elected. This is where they gloat and say they were right.
My dude, they are saying this shit and this is why we're in the boat we are in.
Young people historically haven't been showing up to primaries. They're not putting in the effort to get a candidate worth voting for.
So you're left with 2 options:
- Shitty damage mitigation candidate
- The new Nazi party
The system favors the new Nazi party, so yes, inaction and voting 3rd party is objectively supporting the new Nazi party.
inaction is, but voting third party allows strategy adjustment based on exit polling and what third parties got votes, which does actually shift things left.
Objectively wrong.
In the US presidential election system, the Electoral College forces a maximum of 2 viable parties, and nothing else. It also favors Republicans as it gives them more value per received vote, meaning the Dems need to get more votes than Republicans to win each election, and even then it may not be enough like in 2016.
So when you vote for a 3rd party candidate, not only are you again supporting the GOP's victory, you are also allowing them to move the Overton window further right, which is exactly what's been happening.
The only thing that has successfully moved the Overton winfow left, in the US, is voting in Dem Socs in DNC primaries, and voting against the GOP candidate no matter what in general elections.
Even if your Dem politician is a neo-liberal, voting them in is a SIGNIFICANT slowdown of shifting the Overton window right than by letting the Republican win.
You did not respond to anything I actually said and instead made a stock post.
voting for 3rd parties that are, for example socialist, shows dems what people are voting against them for. It's true that this favors the gop, that cost is sometimes worth it to shift the dems farther left. If polls show a milquetoast stance on gaza doesn't get you elected... I believe politicians losing over israel for example is why the dems are being pushed left.
i never said the third party stands a chance.
Have you tried learning basic arithmetic?
I don't see your point and you seem needlessly rude
Electoral college
That's not related to what I said, I'm fully aware of the spoiler effect and the fact that third parties are non-viable.
Not voting only tells candidates that you're not a reliable voter, so they can ignore you. They don't see your non-vote as a protest vote, because failing to vote means you don't exist to them. If you want to exist to politicians you have to vote. Also, there are nearly always down ballot candidates that are progressive that get ignored because morons act like the top of the ticket is the only reason to leave their moms basement.
Think of it from the perspective of a candidate, they have endless data showing them that no matter how hard they try they won't meet your moral purity test, so they court reliable voters with their messaging and resources.
Most politicians are not reliable so people lose hope and stop voting yet people like you keep critisizing the voters and not the politicians
Oh I am far more angry at the Dem party. Not voting is still moronic.
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This is a democracy. Are you saying the voters deserve no criticism when we end up with Republicans?
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Losing affordable healthcare, and funneling even more wealth to the 1%, while making the economy worse both for working people and the country.
If only it was just confined to the very young. Lots of people remember some of the idiotic things they said before and just as they came of age to vote. Many people continued to cling to it, however.
Not that Adam Mockler falls prey to this kind of thing, but I watch his feed, and one thing I've noticed younger folks like him tend to do, and man, does it make me cringe - it's when they use a sentence with the phrase "my generation...". Oof.
I guess it takes a few more years to get some real perspective on just how silly that sounds to talk about your "generation" as if it's somehow magically different than any other, but one way to try to explain this to someone that is Gen X or younger and has not yet picked up on this: boomers have a song, practically an anthem for the boomers, at least at one point in time: "My Generation". It even had the lyrics:
"I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)"
LOL. BTW, this is not confined to any given generation, hell, my generation - Gen X - did the same shit in their tweens, teens, twenties, thirties.
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At least while FPTP is still the main system of election in the US.
Yes, and Republicans will do absolutely zero to change that, because abusing the system is one of their main strategies.
And old school Democrats won't change it either for some reason, despite calling themselves democrats.
So it's a long process of first changing the Democratic party from within, and then hopefully get the power to modernize democracy in USA.
https://www.vote.nyc/RankedChoiceVoting
New York City, long a Dem stronghold, has implemented ranked choice voting.
old school Democrats won't change it either for some reason
Because the ratchet effect will stop working when they're no longer able to buy primaries and then run as the only realistic alternative to fascism.
The current system protects the DNC from losing power to the effectively disenfranchised Left more than anything else.
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The best bet for change is to run a democratic socialist platform with the local DSA community
Running as independent may be advantageous in some races
It's only the best bet for change short-term. Long-term a two-party system will never work. It might lead to great improvements in the months or years to come, but the same issues are bound to return in decades if the system is not reformed.
It’s only the best bet for change short-term. Long-term a two-party system will never work.
I agree, but the point is exactly on the long term to make changes to democracy. But that's not possible without representation.
Joining a third party will never achieve anything. So the only alternative to influence the Democratic party from within is civil war as I see it.
How TF do you have a 29 year incumbent??
Mitch McConnell has been a senator in Kentucky for 41 years. Its ridiculous that there are no term limits for these people.
There has never been a moment of my life he hasn’t cast a shadow over. I’m gonna need a few hospitals after celebrating
Term limits should be something carried out at the ballot box.
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MF love boomers. Our governor was a strong 20 year run in office, most your senators have been in Washington since the 80's-90's. Yo these people die in their seats of power, thats how...
I suppose it's the fault of the constituents for continuing to vote the same person in over and over again. Or is it that you don't have any other choices?
Laziness. And fear of change.
It is not that there are not other possibilities. I don't really understand how it's now become fashionable on the left to now grumble and carp about "term limits" and engaging in lots of ageism, but what it is fairly obvious is the people doing the most complaining about it are not involved in running in primaries themselves.
I am also highly dubious of anything magical about term limits or having younger people in office.
In fact, I think it's a rather obvious red herring to have everyone engage in some good old fashioned divide-n-conquer, this time divided along generational boundaries. In this particular redux, we now have social media to turbo charge things, instead of the boomers vs. the GI and Silent Generations, it's now Gen Z and Gen Y pitched against boomers. Yawn. I guess it's as predictable as the tides but the people this is mostly aimed at have not been around long enough to know the game.
The fact that so many seem to be fooled by this, especially on the supposed left? Definitely disappointing.
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Damn, that Zionist shill had occupied that seat as long as Melat has been alive!
Shitlibs beware
I was legit excited to vote for her. I’m cautiously optimistic to see how she does.
Even if the new class is a disaster we can vote them out and still fracture the power structure enough to slow it down.
hahahahah boy I hope the radical left is as radical and violent as the republicans imagine them to be.
Denver is pretty blue, so I'm not sure I'd be getting out over our skis here.
I hope they can pull it off in November. That word "socialist" is like Pavlov's bell, triggering the average American to vote Republican.
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