What a fucking joke.
A 1 year prison sentence for an attempted terrorist attack? WTF IS WRONG WITH LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THIS STORY? How is everyone talking about this like the guy made a racist joke, and should be forgiven just cause he's old, and not like he literally just tried to murder 6 people because of their race?
Jesus Christ.
Seriously, can you imagine if it was a brown guy trying to kill 6 people because they're white?
There would have been no trial at all. Brown driver would be dead before the vehicle stopped moving. There cops would have made sure of that.
the cops here were prolly watching like "oh shit he didnt kill any if them i guess we have to arrest him now"
I think you misunderstood who was being quoted in the article...Marvin Dunn is the 83 year old historian and black man who was almost run over. He was the one calling for forgiveness and saying those things to the judge. I recommend you read it again with that perspective
No, I read it with that perspective and I stand by what I said. Marvin Dunn is probably a better human than me, since even though I'm fairly anti-carceral, I cannot fathom letting someone back on the streets a year after they tried to murder 6 people with a 4 ton piece of heavy machinery.
No need to shoehorn your religion in your virtue signalling
Ooooooh edgy.
Agreed, crimes bad we all know, pipe down attention seeker
Lmao, bruh, when people think that everything said is "virtue signalling" that's usually just a sign that they're a bad person.
one comment = everything and usually a sign = assumption out of your ass.
I can play the armchair psychologist too, when people make assumptions others are a bad person, that’s usually just a sign that they’re a bad person.
Sounds like I hit a nerve
instantly downvoted me, Sounds like I hit a nerve
The worst part, from the article:
After the hearing, Emanuel and roughly two-dozen supporters congregated around his truck — a white Ford F-250 donning a Confederate flag.
The people who he tried to kill asked the court for mercy. He then goes outside to receive the support of fellow racists.
Around the attempted murder weapon.
One. Year.
Ffs.
Good thing he didn't smoke a hoint while trying to kill 6 people. Otherwise this would've been really bad for gim.
The judge’s sentence called for 12 months plus one day in federal prison for each of the six charges, which he allowed to run concurrently.
What...
I didn't know this was a thing until my ex started fully disregard our custody order. I cannot understand how this is acceptable.
Fine with me if the victim wants to express forgiveness in a personal or spiritual sense but that should be irrelevant to the criminal case. There should be consequences when a Judge / court fails its duty to serve justice and protect the broader community.
There's an easy solution to this. Hopefully the other inmates take it upon themselves to implement it.
What a joke.
"No! All lives matter!" "Right.. and some are only treated like their lives are worth 2 months slap on the wrist.. "
If the victims are asking for leniency then that's mainly what I look at. They got what they were asking for.
I wish the headline on these stories was "Victim of hate crime calls for forgiveness," but that wouldn't drive rage clicks I guess. The headlines on this story all over media are driving a narrative that the perpetrator was let off easy, implying there was some systemic issues that let him get away with it rather than a concerted effort by the victims
The fact that his victims were better people than he is shouldn't impact sentencing. We already knew that before he got to trial.
“I know how valuable those grandpa years are,” Dunn said after reading his letter to the judge. “I assure the court we can live in peace as neighbors. Someone must take the first step toward peace.”
That's truly heartwarming. Until you realize he's just ensured Emanuel can just get a few more years of reinforcing for his grandkids how worthless those n***rs are, really cementing the next generation of racist bigots.
Prior to the attack in September 2022, Emanuel shouted racial slurs at the group from his white Ford F-250, and demanded that the men leave the area, court records show.
After Dunn responded they were parked on a public road, Emanuel sped off only to return minutes later — his truck charging toward the group. Dunn’s son, Frederick Douglas Dunn, leaped into the grass, saving himself by mere inches.
How wonderful that we're respecting the need for this racist, murderous, bigot's family to continue receiving his influence for as long as possible.
I agree that forgiveness is the more compelling aspect of the story. Obviously, the very lenient sentence jumps out and it doesn't seem like appropriate punishment. On the other hand, this guy has a year to sit in prison and think about why the victims chose to forgive him. It's possible that's more likely to change him than being locked up for 5 or 6 years. If you want some old, racist loser to die a racist loser then you lock him up for a long time. Instead, he's getting an opportunity at redemption that could possibly have a greater effect than just locking up some old bastard until he dies. I mean, we eventually have to change these people. This could be a much more interesting story than rage bait.
A year long stint in a place that’s segregated by racist gangs where he gets to be a protected hero is not going to reform him, unfortunately. He should have received a sentence commensurate with his danger to the public, given his capacity to randomly decide to run people over with his truck.
You may be right. Nobody knows. Plenty of people come out with a harder heart than when they went in but not all. That’s the biggest failure of our justice system. It’s sort of a unique situation when the victims are advocating for the perpetrator of a hate crime. I feel like if this guy has a shot at changing then this is it. And if someone this bad can be changed then there’s hope for others too. I hope it works out.
While I like the sound of your redemption arc, and agree that it would be the ideal outcome, he drove to his court date flying the confederate flag, I don't think he's about to be reformed.
Ok, I take it back. That’s just sad. I’m still hoping for the best, but it just got a lot harder to have any optimism about this.
A big part of the prison system is to remove threats from society. It's fantastic that this guy's victims survived and it's also really good and healthy for them to ask for mercy as it means they likely aren't holding the negative feelings that will continue to hurt them in the long term. But the legal system should go above and beyond the victim's desires to protect the rest of society because this guy's next victims might not be so lucky.
I mean at least go with the 3/5ths compromise, no matter how racist you are.
The guy’s gotta have a hobby.
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