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Discord has quietly begun testing Incode as a new age verification provider, replacing its previous vendor for some users. The company says face scans are processed on-device where possible, IDs and selfies are deleted after age confirmation, and Discord only receives an age result, not your identity. But the move still raises important privacy questions around biometric verification, third-party trust, and the growing trend of mandatory age checks online, especially after the massive Persona breach linked to Discord user data back in 2025

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[-] aurelar@lemmy.ml 28 points 20 hours ago

They said that the pictures were deleted last time, and we found out later that they weren't. Why would we trust them a second time when they violated our trust the first time?

[-] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 5 points 14 hours ago

Most people love capitalism and the ways it fucks them over.

[-] wisdomsuccubus@thelemmy.club 2 points 13 hours ago

Bye Discord... Hi Element/Matrix haha

[-] PerfectDark@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

We replaced our site's (not-very-used) Discord server with Matrix, and even if a few thousand don't know/didn't follow, we're happier to be on a nicer space than Discord :)

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago

I wish more FOSS communities would use Matrix, Discord sucks so I barely use it anymore

[-] warm@kbin.earth 12 points 20 hours ago

When Fluxer gets federation, I really think it will be a great drop-in for Discord. It's very familiar.

Matrix really isn't a good replacement for Discord. I wish forums were still the thing though, I hate threads in my chat apps.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

Fluxer just finally finished their big refactor that brought their code to GitHub for public contribution and they released their revamped selfhosting experience

[-] Solrac@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago
[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago

It's on the roadmap, and it's a solo dev

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago

And Claude ofc

[-] Solrac@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Wake us up when its federated and ha proper e2ee.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

It’s on the roadmap

Kindof like Helix plugin system, Forgejo federation, CoMaps live traffic, etc. I'd rather use something that works right now and not have to wait like 5 years

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I stopped and will immediately stop using all services that require face scans, ids, phone number or qr-captchas.

If they want to kill their product they can be my guest.

[-] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

I stopped and will immediately stop using all services that require face scans, ids, phone number or qr-captchas.

Same.

The question tho is, how many will? If it's 50%, they killed their product. If it's 0.1%, then their product is fine, while you, me, and all us 0.1% are excluded from more and more of the online world. This won't stop with Discord.

I guess the % will be somewhere between those levels. Where exactly? IDK.

[-] Zizzy 5 points 22 hours ago

I agree, but all matrix clients have their own issues too, and its not a 1:1 replacement.

[-] Manalith@midwest.social 3 points 20 hours ago

Been working on deciding where to move to, not sure if I can get my people to come with but as it stands

Fluxer - E2EE is iffy at the moment from what I've seen, federation not yet a thing

Matrix - I don't know of a client that allows audio screenshares which is important when sites keep removing the watchparty features

MOVIM is entirely text based as far as I can tell

[-] spiderhamster@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Matrix - I don’t know of a client that allows audio screenshares which is important when sites keep removing the watchparty features

If you use Element web with a chrome-based browser you can share a tab playing a video from the same browser. I use Helium to connect to matrix and my Jellyfin server to stream movies regularly. Within the last few months they've added the ability to adjust stream volume as well.

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

I assume E2EE is end to end encryption?

Curious why you care that much. On discord it's all on their servers anyways, so it already doesn't matter.

If you had to you could self host and set up e2ee for the connection if you wanted to.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

MOVIM is entirely text based as far as I can tell

What are you talking about? One of its main features is multi-stream video calls, which most other XMPP clients don't handle

[-] UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Their desktop client is a memory hog too. Takes ages to launch and update

[-] Coyote@piefed.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, for Discord on my PC I use it through Equibop. It works quite well.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

On my computer I have to use Equibop because their shitass client doesn't support ARM Linux

[-] GMac@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I like the marketing and on the surface, Matrix looks like something I would be on baord with, BUT... staff and leadership track back to amdocs and thats a red flag for me. Independent code review, analysis, security audit and activity verification might change my mind but at this point I have no incentive to invest effort into verifying matrix is safe after my concern radar has pinged.

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Matrix is just the protocol so if you think that synapse (the server implementation developed by Element which does have ties to Amdocs) is somehow logging all your data and sending it back or whatever, just use a different implementation. For example, tuwunel is sponsored and used by Switzerland’s government.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I will say that Matrix does not have a good security track record for E2EE and all of the clients use their software to do it. If that's a dealbreaker, you should probably use something security-oriented like Signal.

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Was just addressing the amdocs complaint. Didn’t know about the security concerns but it’s most likely still better than Discord and I’m not sure if Signal is even in consideration when looking for a Discord alternative.

[-] GMac@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Sure i read that the protocol developments go back to amdocs Governments use palantir so not a benchmark reference for avoiding spyware. Like i said, red flag and lack of motivation to act enough to verify either way. Ymmv

My community is in the process to migrate to fluxxer, self-hosted.

this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2026
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