I think it would be a big step forward if republicans used actually free social media platforms rather than those that are controlled by their leaders and heavily used for propaganda. So although I disagree with their political orientation, I'd welcome them to whatever Fediverse platform they're interested in. Also I think it's better if internet platforms represent everyone. Otherwise Lemmy may turn into (and partially might be already) an echo chamber for green, left ideas. Having a safe space is great, but I think it's also good to keep in mind that we don't have a statistically representative audience here.
i have a feeling you're using the word "republicans" to refer to the party of john mccain. which died with him.
what we have now is fascism. when i see someone simping for anyone running for office with R next to their name, it's not what you'd call a "discussion."
John McCain was a POW and he may have served honourably in the US military, but he wasn't some paragon of virtue. Wasn't he a big part of the Birther movement (the ones who tried to push the idea that Barack Obama was not a bona fide American citizen because his father was born in Kenya and some suggested he was as well)?
If we're going back some years, we could use the Republicans' own words and call them the party of Lincoln, though every Republican who voted for Abraham Lincoln likely would have voted for Barack Obama, and more recently, against Donald Trump. The Republicans were the progressive party back then and the Democrats (under whom the Klan was founded) were the conservative party. Conservatives today like to remind people of that, but they don't like it when we point out that the two parties swapped ideals and platforms long before any of us were born.
Wasn't he a big part of the Birther movement
no and he actively shut up the people trying to make that an issue on the campaign trail. the loudest voice among the birth certificate crowd was donald trump lmao
military, but he wasn't some paragon of virtue. Wasn't he a big part of the Birther movement
No, he was outspoken against that movement when it started gaining traction during their election cycle.
Not really a fan of McCain, but at least he had values I guess.
to quote The Muslims "John McCain's Ghost Sneaks into the White House and Teabags the President":
Damn dude that's cool
But we still hate you too
Here is John McCain saying Obama is a decent person and that he is US citizen to a room full of future Trump supporters. The party was dying in front of him.
you're arguing against something i never said, nor can it reasonably be said that i implied it anywhere. but ok
So you don't think we can compromise on who to exterminate? Bigot.
I disagree, I think smaller communities are more sustainable and defederation should occur more, not less. I like discussing common interests and digging deeper into a topic both users have a shared basic understanding of. For example, allowing and even promoting people to come into a community like WomensStuff and argue against some pretty basic feminist ideas is really not what that community is made for. There are so many more examples of this, but without fail the end result is discouragement of minority opinions and people who are truly passionate about their chosen communities.
Having safe spaces (which is absolutely fine and up to the mods of the community) doesn't mean that other people that contradict the idea of said safe spaces shouldn't use the Fediverse in general.
They could host their own Nazi instance of Lemmy and do whatever they want rather than using X or truth social or whatever. I obviously still don't like these people and their ideas, but I prefer them discussing it without being additionally manipulated by intransparent algorithms and corporations. Of course, other instances can (and probably will in many cases) decide to defederate the Nazi server or block specific users or communities as it's done today.
doesn't mean that these people shouldn't use the Fediverse in general.
I'm not arguing that at all; defederation does not affect somebody's ability to host an instance. Everything I said can be equally applied to all communities.
Could you please elaborate what you meant with your disagreement then? Seems to me that we agree here. I did not mean to say that everyone should be welcomed in every community and share whatever opinion/content they want. I was just talking about Platforms as in X, Truth Social or in case of the Fediverse Mastodon, Lemmy, Loops etc.
Because nothing I said was against the idea of decentralization, or promoting people staying on twitter. Defederating is a healthy part of decentralization, and it should be encouraged more as the fediverse grows.
I think smaller communities are more sustainable and defederation should occur more, not less.
In this case, why bother with the Fediverse in the first place and why should we not go back to the forums of yesteryear?
I still like the idea of forums and still use a bunch of them, but different forums being somewhat compatible to each other has quite some advantages from my perspective. For me it would be great concept of having independent websites that can exchange data via ActivityPub and people can either visit the website or consume the content from another instance and with their app of choice.
There are many instances worth federating with.
I think it would be a big step forward if republicans used actually free social media platforms rather than those that are controlled by their leaders and heavily used for propaganda.
Good idea. All parties should do the same thing. Any party that only sticks to platforms used for propaganda and echo chambers is a problem. People need to think for themselves, form their own opinions, and stop treating party lines like religious doctrine. Regardless of what side of the aisle they are on. Information is power.
What’s with conservatives and calisthenics? Fucking cultists
Access to young men.
Seriously. It's a community that is likely popular among people who care about fitness, which likely means young men and some women, and then he can sneak in conservative propaganda between actual calisthenics stuff to nudge people to the right.
Same reason they buy makeup influencers.
Guess Democrats better start doing pushups and going to the gym then
For one, it sounds like he did you a favour if his idols are Trump and Musk.
Two, everyone's allowed on Lemmy. Someone supports paedophilia and war crimes, you could just block them. In this case it looks like the trash took itself out.
Also, there is/was a MAGA instance. Almost everyone immediately defederated from it. Just like how Truth Social (Trump's social network) is based on Mastodon, but most Mastodon instances defederated from it (or Truth Social was altered to not federate; I'm not sure).
Two, everyone’s allowed on Lemmy.
Ironic how much this irritates so much of Lemmy considering how much Lemmy plays up freedom from people in power. You're right, though!
This user is an alias of a well-known fediverse troll and being banned from their shitty communities is a blessing in disguise.
Half the communities they mod are so locked up that only they can create posts.
the beauty of Lemmy. you can federate with anyone, and anyone can federate with you.
also, accounts are free. that probably helps.
win-win for both of you from what I can tell. what's the problem here exactly?
havent even posted in the lib and cali coms btw
Spend enough time on Lemmy and you'll be blessed with wondering if some incel is actually going to selfharm because you exist in their reality and didn't support American foreign policy harder.
PTB, some instances just allow anyone to join because they "don't want to limit opinion expression 👶"
I mean you pre-emptively ban people from coms you mod without them ever interacting with you. Just because they disagree with you.
Do you think you're a PTB?
For the observer, look for the string "anti ai troll" or "anti-ai troll" (I can't remember the qualifier of Zir gramma) in the modlog
They get banned when they interact with communities. They then get banned in the communities. That's not difficult to parse.
Sorry that a trans person doesn't want to spend time with people who spin up accounts to harass Zir.
i'm banned for a few of Zir communities that as far i know i've never interacted with (including at least one that isn't federated on my server). i'm unbothered by it because they're not communities i'm interested in. it just struck me as odd.
so we're clear @MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com , this is not an appeal. i don't have beef. i've been noticing of late that i agree with a lot of your interpretations of how things are and how they go. i think your cool, and i just hope you see me as being more than just an anti-ai troll. if you do, i won't try to change that view. i'll just continue trying to live in a constructive manner
I got pre-emptively banned too. I had never even interacted with them lol.
I don't care, and actually I defended mods right to do that in a ptb thread about it. I just think it's rich they're saying PTB
I get there's a certain level of hypocrisy, fair enough. But I don't want this thread derailed into a discussion about Mystic and genAI.
Ack
For someone who doesn't care, you seemingly said you cared a lot when you felt the need to reply.
More context . Disagreeing snd misinformation are teo different things . Maybe the mod is lying and that's why I am asking context. It is still a PTB for banning from communities where the supposed misinformation was not written
I asked in the conservative com if they support trump once
It's a psyop and dessenting opinions are bad for business
It doesn't take much power to corrupt even the most ethical moderators. Takes even less if you go into politics.
corrupt
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
- Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms