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At least 18 people died in France, including two children left in a hot car, as a heat wave gripped Europe and smashed temperature records in several cities Monday.

As schools in France closed ‌or modified their schedules, forecasters in Britain predicted temperatures could break June records this week.

The temperature in Bordeaux in France's western wine country rose to 41.9 C, breaking a record set last August. In Poitiers, in central France, it reached 41.2 C, surpassing a previous high set in 1947.

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[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Damn the society of Greed is killing us all.

[-] SCmSTR 8 points 5 hours ago

41.2c -> 106.16F

[-] tigermountain@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm waiting for all the "it's supposed to be hot in the summer" comments.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Up to 40 now :(

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago

And boomers wonder why Gen Z and millennials aren't having kids.

[-] Tiral@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

They aren't having kids because France doesn't use air conditioners or hasn't typically in the past? It isn't a money thing, it's a "we don't need them and never have" thing and now they do. It's like buying a dryer in south east Asia, they don't use them and they're incredibly hard to even find one to buy.

[-] BlindPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You are aware that the AC doesn't do much when you're outside?

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago

That and the fact that salaries are very low in France. I see americans talking about $200k a year for software engineers, where in France you get $50k a year on average if you're a senior.

[-] anthony43@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago

You took 2 extremes, but even without that, consider that the french have retirement and health included

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Sure, but an American making 50k probably doesn't. The French absolutely does

[-] slackassassin@piefed.social 3 points 5 hours ago

Extremes is true and also very location dependent, but anyone making 200k in the u.s. also has insurance and a retirement package.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

There's no way those numbers are true as an American who's in the industry. Like maybe super high end for USA and super low for France as outliers but you basically have to be a genius wizard to be making 200k a year as a software engineer anywhere in the USA. Even then it'll only be in a super high cost of living place, no software dev in the Midwest is pulling 200k.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I definitely know software devs in the Midwest making more than 200k

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Well good for them, I haven't met any - I think we could at least agree that's very rare.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I definitely know developers in France making more than twice that.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The cost to the global economy of dealing with fossil fuel dependency is going to be huge. So instead we are going to faaaaaall down and worship at the Moloch of the Capitalism with annual human sacrifices. India is ahead of the game with 40k levels of human sacrifice (about 3500 per day!), so the other countries need to step up their game, because only 18 people in France, those are rookie numbers.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Without this "fossil fuel dependency" there wouldn't be 8 billion people and we'd be at an early 19th century economy. You know, when they had 100% renewable energy?

[-] glibg@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Sounds good to me.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

What a ridiculous thing to say, what a bullshit argument.

There has existed a scientific consensus about the dangers of climate change due to CO2 emissions since the late 1980s. The first IPCC report came out in 1990. That's 36 years ago. MORE THAN THREE FUCKING DECADES that our leaders have had the knowledge that humanity needs to change course. MORE THAN THREE DECADES of lost opportunity to actually change the structure of our economies and the inputs/outputs of industrial base.

So give me a fucking break from the bullshit.

[-] freely1333@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

In fairness three decades isn’t actually that long of a time.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago
[-] freely1333@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Dinosaurs were 100 million years ago etc etc. 36 years is not even a blip in time.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

We're talking human economic policy bro. 36 years is an era.

[-] freely1333@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Slavery took about 100 years of gradual policy reform and a civil war to change.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago

How long do y'all think it will take yanks to start talking about how in X part of the US it's much hotter and us "pansy Europeans" should just "learn to deal with it"?

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 32 points 22 hours ago

I knew a girl from texas, we sometimes played video games together. She kept telling me that it's not even that hot, it's way hotter in texas. I asked her how they even deal with that heat, because it's 10 degrees cooler here and i almost die until i reach the forrest when i go outside. She was like: tsss, we don't go outside, we are at home with the AC running, AC in the car and go to the AC mall. Oh, so you deal with tye problem by not dealimg with it.

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

So fun fact I moved to New England from Texas (Denton) and let me tell u the HOT HUMID shitty parts of August imo felt worse in new england than the 100° dry heat in Texas! Yes sometimes in Texas it got muggy too then it was hell and u parked ur ass inside but I was surprised with the humid heat in the northeast! France is seeing 105-106 f heat now, which if dry as Arizona isn't too bad here and there but if their acompanied by any humidity too your sweat cannot cool u off and u just fucking fry!

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Nobody can understand ur weird units, u are on the Internet, where the majority uses Celsius.

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago

and by increasing the problem

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Too hot outside, better sit inside and run a machine that moves heat from inside to outside while also producing waste heat as well!

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 points 18 hours ago

Yes. The alternative is suffering.

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Personally when it gets that hot I take a ride to one of my local swimming holes, most are fed by mountain streams and are CHILLY no matter how hot it is outside! But yea not much alternative some days

[-] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago

They may actually ignore this one, as they do not understand what 41C is and at the same time are too lazy to check.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 23 hours ago

If they could read they would be very upset >:(

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

41°? That's the temp of my fridge! Pussies! /s

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

That’s too warm for a fridge.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

It's broken :(

[-] comador@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

As a Californian yank who has spent a combined 2 years living in East Sussex, England and León, Spain; let me just say this:

There's dumbasses, highly ignorant chads and plenty of wankers on both sides of the pond who will readily make stupid comments.

Any comments about the US being hotter than the EU really comes down to a lack of basic knowledge that most Europeans don't have Air Conditioning and are therefore unprepared to deal with prolonged heatwaves.

Sure, we Californians for example endure entire months of continuous 33'C weather, but we're prepared for it here. We expect to have two seasons here: Summer and Spring for fucks sake.

Europeans however don't expect that and the only criticism you all are entitled to here is that this isn't going to go away. All you Europeans need to be pushing for infrastructure now instead of fucking talking and talking and talking some more about it.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 53 points 1 day ago

It’s also the buildings.

I live in Sweden. My flat was built in the 60s, and it’s made to retain heat. It was part of the million programme and is incredibly sturdy. I half joke it’d survive a nuclear bomb, but it very well might. There’s even a shelter.

Past few days we’ve had temps going up to around 27. That’s not too bad if you’re outside. In my flat however the temps easily rise to 32, and has even hit 35. Opening a window helps a little, but the entire building heats up and retains this heat.

While it gets cooler outside during the night, the building is still radiating heat, and it doesn’t fully dissipate come morning. I have a portable AC, and while it works well, the moment you turn it off the heat that remains in the walls, ceiling, and floor quickly radiates out and completely nullifies the efforts of the AC.

Many places in the U.S. has the complete opposite problem. Like this example.

It’s not about people being wimps, it’s about the climate changing in fairly chaotic and extreme ways, and our adaptations to protect against the weather simply not keeping up.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That sounds like a nightmare. I live in Australia and used to work in a 2nd floor office with very weak vented AC. In summer afternoons the sun would beat down on the one exterior wall, and it would heat up like a radiator. On hot days the wall and window glass became too hot to touch from the inside. You could feel the radiated heat when you walked in the room, like walking past a pizza oven.

Modem building codes require some sort of weird looking air-gapped cladding on the sunward side of buildings, steel, aluminium or concrete panels suspended 100mm away from the wall on pegs, and gridded awnings over windows so that the sunlight isn't beating directly against the wall, otherwise the buildings are basically unsurvivable.

Technology Connections did a video on awnings and how much they were useful before AC, and how they've fallen out of fashion despite being needed more than ever

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Yep. It's all about infrastructure and change.

I do wonder if they'll get everything hooked up to AC right as the AMOC collapses and send the UK and europe into a mini-ice-age.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Well where i live we have year round 36 so check mate

/s

But seriously that's our miserable weather

[-] farmgineer@nord.pub 7 points 1 day ago

They're too busy responding to all the Europeans' comments on US housing construction materials at the moment.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 20 hours ago

USian here. Construction is garbage.

[-] CyroSignal@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Luckily, I'm not going out.

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