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[-] harrybo93@lemmy.world 129 points 1 month ago

I feel like these are just bot accounts. People are arguing with propaganda bot accounts.

(Referencing the pro trump account, btw)

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Could very well be Bot-on-Bot violence.

I'm sure I've seen this exchange a thousand times on Reddit.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons.

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[-] man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I dunno though. I think a bot account would pick a better name than Brilyn Hollyhand. With a name that stupid, this person is definitely real.

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[-] kibblebits@quokk.au 6 points 1 month ago

It’s ML, doing their job very well.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Update- never mind. I looked more posts down into your history than I did when I wrote this. You know what you were doing.

Welcome to Lemmy! I would suggest not abbreviating "Machine Learning" as "ML" in the future, and use "LLM" or "AI" instead.

There's a lemmy.ml instance that people here sometimes refer to as ".ml", "ML", or "ml". They have an above-average population of people with different political views than most, and you will sometimes find comments generalizing the people on that instance because of it. Those generalizations tend to be frowned upon by people in that instance as well as by people on other instances who are sick of the arguing.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

He’a referring to ML (the instance), implying that the racist snake chud and the farther-left-than-the-overall-American-Democratic-Party ML poster are one in the same, for he is a believer in the political alignment ouroboros

No step on snek, soldier

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  1. ~~His account is 3 weeks old.~~

  2. ~~From the past 10 or so comments I looked at when I wrote my comment: the guy's comment history demonstrated tech literacy. It did not demonstrate right-wing chuddery.~~

  3. ~~Occam's razor. In a reply to a comment talking about bots, it takes fewer assumptions to connect "ML" to machine learning than to "lemmy.ml"~~

Actually, I take that back. I scrolled down about 20 more posts into the guy's history than I did last time, and he had things to say about tankies.

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[-] Loce@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] BeardededSquidward 3 points 1 month ago

It's very real, bot traffic is so high that it's hard to determine who is legit and who is a bot. We'll want to be able to physically verify people eventually.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago

For all I know, both of these might be bots.

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[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

People against Hitler were told they hated Germany. People against Franco were told they hated Spain.

People against Trump... do you see a pattern here?

[-] fratermus@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago

You loathe Trump because you loathe America

I loathe Trump because I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Same. I can't fathom how any veteran or current military member supports him. These days I'm ashamed to say I am a veteran.

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Things is, you're totally within your rights to loathe someone who was "before your time," such as Reagan or Thatcher or Jackson or Jefferson or... But to use "loathed" in the past tense means either you used to hate this individual but no longer do, or that you hated them back when they were relevant. Since this individual clearly has not had a change of heart re: Obama, we must assume the latter, that this individual had strong emotional opinions about politics before they even hit puberty, which as anyone who has even met a child before can attest is utter nonsense.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Things is, you’re totally within your rights to loathe someone who was “before your time,” such as Reagan or Thatcher or Jackson or Jefferson

The pivotal argument for "I hated him" is always "He hated me back first". Which is this unfalsifiable nothingburger of a critique to begin with. It's racist, but it's also this mush-brained apolitical critique bound up in Feelings over Facts & Logic.

this individual had strong emotional opinions about politics before they even hit puberty, which as anyone who has even met a child before can attest is utter nonsense.

Children absolutely have strong emotions about things they don't comprehend. My toddler son will throw howling tantrums for the most baffling reasons (he had a meltdown this morning because he looked out a window and didn't see a cat).

But much like with my grumpy little wiggler, all I can say to this guy is "What do you want me to do about it?" I can't control if you've invented a Barack Obama to be angry at, because you decided he gave you the stink-eye through the TV.

So much of the MAGA Movement is bound up in this perpetual sense of imagined martyrdom. And that martyrdom comes out of this endless font of national media full of demagogues screaming "They hate you! They hate you! They hate you!" If liberals ever want to retake this country from the fascist chud battalions, they really need to set aside their starry eyed fetish for Constitutional Principles and SHUT THESE VENUES DOWN.

Call'm monopolies and break them up. Pull their broadcasting licenses. Press charges on all their owners and managers for any of the litany of crimes they commit with impunity on a daily basis. Block their websites. Shutter their studios. Smash their printing presses. Outlaw their churches. Roll-em up and kick-em out.

Otherwise, you're going to be dealing with this shit for another generation. And another after that. Until the fascists are fully in control or someone comes along with the balls to do what you can't.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You understand that everything you just said about inventing a version of Obama to be mad at applies to people who were adults during Obama's term and even ones who were born before him, right? Like you wrote this whole long screed but never actually explained why ageism isn't a shitty argument here.

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, this is a really trash argument that collapses under the slightest scrutiny. The conclusion is correct, but the means to arrive at it is comically flimsy, and it's a shame to see Lemmy endorsing garbage.

If an 18-year-old wants to praise Obama's administration (fairly or otherwise), I don't resort to ageism.

If an 18-year-old wants to go talking about how Obama dragged his feet on LGBT rights until Biden roped him in, the litany of war crimes, his love affair with natural gas, etc. I don't resort to ageism.

And if an 18-year-old wants to go talking about how Obama was a Muslim socialist who raped children while wearing a tan suit and only Donald Trump, master of all four elements, could stop him, I don't resort to ageism, because it's a shitty argument, and I actually have some fucking intellectual honesty.

[-] shweddy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ehh idk I knew Al Gore was a better candidate than Bush in 4th grade 4th grade

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • Professional influencer,

  • talks to another influencer,

  • on... Threads?

It's just attention chum.

(And I did look up both posters, but precisely zero credibility/background is presented on the Threads UI)

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

If Obama loathed America I’d respect him more

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Exactly, Obama was decent but was still into a lot of the corruption that plagues US politics.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

No I've grown to dislike America because of the rot trump embodies

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

As a 40yo Canadian, I've always loathed America and what they stood for on the Global scale. The global police, the central trading partners of everyone despite offering nothing, having the primary metric of the global economy... But I never hated Americans. I always had a tremendous amount of respect for the kindness of your average American despite what their country does to the world.

The Trump happened and watching 2/3rds of the American Population either voting for it or being completely complacent on it (not voting at all) shows how much the average American cares not only about their own countrymen but human beings all over the globe.

I never had a lot of respect for America. I no longer have respect for Americans either.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

It was so shocking when he won. We really didn't know how racist and sexist Americans could be when given the choice.

I do blame the Democratic establishment to a large degree for offering hurting Americans literally nothing, but I didn't think they'd choose... that, over nothing.

The nicest thing I can say about it is at least it shows Americans want radical change.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Bush II and my high school experience. Jingoism and anti intellectualism was taught at that school.

[-] trashboypro 17 points 1 month ago

"We loathed Obama because he loathed America" speak for yourself you imperial, I hate Obama because he's the smiling and reassuring face of an evil torturer.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I loathe Obama because he illegally bombed Yemenis and other people, then bragged about how good at killing he was.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Loathing Obama isn't racist, goofball.

I loathe Obama and Trump and Biden and Bush and Bush Sr. and Clinton and Reagan, and that's okay. It's okay to loathe those who command murder, surveillance, a police state, imprisonment, robbing the poor for the rich, etc.

[-] hakase@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Only sane take in this entire thread, so if course it's downvoted.

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

That's true, but it's extremely unlikely that Brilyn Hollyhand hates him for the same reason you do.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They always make a false premise. These ones are easy to spot, but always look for it.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

So what's the logic here. I hate this country, so I'll become its president? I usually try to keep away from the things I dislike.

[-] pomfegranate@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Racist chud needs more verbs

[-] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

He learned a fun word and now he's gonna use it.

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[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Three fucking people. You loathed Obama like we loathe trump. I don't loathe trump I just want him to stop doing shit only for himself and cronies. Every president does it but so far none have made it their main focus like trump has.

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