They always make a false premise. These ones are easy to spot, but always look for it.
If Obama loathed America I’d respect him more
Exactly, Obama was decent but was still into a lot of the corruption that plagues US politics.
I feel like these are just bot accounts. People are arguing with propaganda bot accounts.
(Referencing the pro trump account, btw)
Dead Internet theory...
It's very real, bot traffic is so high that it's hard to determine who is legit and who is a bot. We'll want to be able to physically verify people eventually.
For all I know, both of these might be bots.
Could very well be Bot-on-Bot violence.
I'm sure I've seen this exchange a thousand times on Reddit.
Autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons.
I dunno though. I think a bot account would pick a better name than Brilyn Hollyhand. With a name that stupid, this person is definitely real.
It’s ML, doing their job very well.
Update- never mind. I looked more posts down into your history than I did when I wrote this. You know what you were doing.
Welcome to Lemmy! I would suggest not abbreviating "Machine Learning" as "ML" in the future, and use "LLM" or "AI" instead.
There's a lemmy.ml instance that people here sometimes refer to as ".ml", "ML", or "ml". They have an above-average population of people with different political views than most, and you will sometimes find comments generalizing the people on that instance because of it. Those generalizations tend to be frowned upon by people in that instance as well as by people on other instances who are sick of the arguing.
He’a referring to ML (the instance), implying that the racist snake chud and the farther-left-than-the-overall-American-Democratic-Party ML poster are one in the same, for he is a believer in the political alignment ouroboros
No step on snek, soldier
~~His account is 3 weeks old.~~
~~From the past 10 or so comments I looked at when I wrote my comment: the guy's comment history demonstrated tech literacy. It did not demonstrate right-wing chuddery.~~
~~Occam's razor. In a reply to a comment talking about bots, it takes fewer assumptions to connect "ML" to machine learning than to "lemmy.ml"~~
Actually, I take that back. I scrolled down about 20 more posts into the guy's history than I did last time, and he had things to say about tankies.
Is the instance in the room with us right now?
ML stands for Machine Learning. If the goal of those two bots were to argue with each other to sew political division and distract from the class inequality suffered by both sides, they are doing their job very well.
In any case, if your immediate response is to interpret a comment containing the initialism "ML" as your Lemmy instance being persecuted, you may have a victim complex.
Not a computer nerd, thanks for the knowledge, though!
I don't know if you know this, but ML is much, much more commonly used by .World users in regards to the instance, and not machine learning. I don't think it's a victim complex as much as it's a bogeyman problem.
My inference from the comment chain's context was "ML" as the tech concept, but, yeah—if someone is unfamiliar with the term, I can see how that will be seen as a comment about the .ml instance.
I'll admit, that was my bad, lol. Thanks again for the explanation!
I just scrolled a few more screens down into the guy's post history than when I wrote my original reply to you. No, you were right.
For an account 3 weeks old with comments that make it seem like he works in a software development field, he had opinions on tankies. Charitability and assuming Occam's razor applied was not something I should have given him.
Now that you're here, yes.
How dare I want the workers to own the means of production. How can the billionaire pedophile elite eat our babies when equality is running rampant through society!?
I didn't say anything about that. I'm anarcho-communist myself.
Just pointing out that a .ml instance user joining the conversation very literally does bring the .ml instance into the 'room' with us.
Fair enough, comrade.
Racist chud needs more verbs
He learned a fun word and now he's gonna use it.
Don't be too hard on him. He hasn't learned since 2nd grade when Obama left office.
Professional influencer,
talks to another influencer,
on... Threads?
It's just attention chum.
(And I did look up both posters, but precisely zero credibility/background is presented on the Threads UI)
Things is, you're totally within your rights to loathe someone who was "before your time," such as Reagan or Thatcher or Jackson or Jefferson or... But to use "loathed" in the past tense means either you used to hate this individual but no longer do, or that you hated them back when they were relevant. Since this individual clearly has not had a change of heart re: Obama, we must assume the latter, that this individual had strong emotional opinions about politics before they even hit puberty, which as anyone who has even met a child before can attest is utter nonsense.
Things is, you’re totally within your rights to loathe someone who was “before your time,” such as Reagan or Thatcher or Jackson or Jefferson
The pivotal argument for "I hated him" is always "He hated me back first". Which is this unfalsifiable nothingburger of a critique to begin with. It's racist, but it's also this mush-brained apolitical critique bound up in Feelings over Facts & Logic.
this individual had strong emotional opinions about politics before they even hit puberty, which as anyone who has even met a child before can attest is utter nonsense.
Children absolutely have strong emotions about things they don't comprehend. My toddler son will throw howling tantrums for the most baffling reasons (he had a meltdown this morning because he looked out a window and didn't see a cat).
But much like with my grumpy little wiggler, all I can say to this guy is "What do you want me to do about it?" I can't control if you've invented a Barack Obama to be angry at, because you decided he gave you the stink-eye through the TV.
So much of the MAGA Movement is bound up in this perpetual sense of imagined martyrdom. And that martyrdom comes out of this endless font of national media full of demagogues screaming "They hate you! They hate you! They hate you!" If liberals ever want to retake this country from the fascist chud battalions, they really need to set aside their starry eyed fetish for Constitutional Principles and SHUT THESE VENUES DOWN.
Call'm monopolies and break them up. Pull their broadcasting licenses. Press charges on all their owners and managers for any of the litany of crimes they commit with impunity on a daily basis. Block their websites. Shutter their studios. Smash their printing presses. Outlaw their churches. Roll-em up and kick-em out.
Otherwise, you're going to be dealing with this shit for another generation. And another after that. Until the fascists are fully in control or someone comes along with the balls to do what you can't.
You understand that everything you just said about inventing a version of Obama to be mad at applies to people who were adults during Obama's term and even ones who were born before him, right? Like you wrote this whole long screed but never actually explained why ageism isn't a shitty argument here.
never actually explained why ageism isn’t a shitty argument
Ageism has nothing to do with it. You can be pickled on propaganda at any age.
You can be pickled on propaganda at any age.
Oh, okay, I read your comment as you trying to counter their debunk of the ageism in the OP. My bad, then.
You can be pickled on propaganda at any age.
Oh hell yeah. Like the phrase, going to tuck it away for later. Thank you!
Yeah, this is a really trash argument that collapses under the slightest scrutiny. The conclusion is correct, but the means to arrive at it is comically flimsy, and it's a shame to see Lemmy endorsing garbage.
If an 18-year-old wants to praise Obama's administration (fairly or otherwise), I don't resort to ageism.
If an 18-year-old wants to go talking about how Obama dragged his feet on LGBT rights until Biden roped him in, the litany of war crimes, his love affair with natural gas, etc. I don't resort to ageism.
And if an 18-year-old wants to go talking about how Obama was a Muslim socialist who raped children while wearing a tan suit and only Donald Trump, master of all four elements, could stop him, I don't resort to ageism, because it's a shitty argument, and I actually have some fucking intellectual honesty.
Ehh idk I knew Al Gore was a better candidate than Bush in 4th grade 4th grade
Sure, but did you loathe Bush?
Loathing Obama isn't racist, goofball.
I loathe Obama and Trump and Biden and Bush and Bush Sr. and Clinton and Reagan, and that's okay. It's okay to loathe those who command murder, surveillance, a police state, imprisonment, robbing the poor for the rich, etc.
Only sane take in this entire thread, so if course it's downvoted.
So what's the logic here. I hate this country, so I'll become its president? I usually try to keep away from the things I dislike.
Obama hated yellow mustard and dark colored suits when he was feeling more summery. That's enough for me
Humor can be found anywhere.😝
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