Consider getting your own domain name and pointing it at a provider, then when they enshittify you just switch provider and don't have to change all your emails everywhere again.
This is how I use Proton. The setup process is really easy with clear instructions on what to configure in your DNS provider.
The only problem I have is that gmail rejects emails from my domain, I have to use proton’s address.
You need to build up reputation before you can beat spam filters. This happens all the time to new domains. Make sure to have Dmarc and Dkim configured.
Well, that sucks. Guess you must hate the people who reject you. What domain? yy?
Huh I never thought about this. This is something I'll have to do some research on, thanks.
Go for it. It's surprisingly easy, relatively inexpensive and gives you way more control.
Well proven strategy, to the point where most providers explicitly allow it (might even be a decider). But don't trust me (genuinely), Moar research! (please)).
BRILLIANT!!!
BRILLIANT
Well... it has advantages, for sure. Also drawbacks. A custom domain, that ties together all your separate email addresses.
There are let's say 16 addresses on mysuperbestnumberonemail dot com. One used at a bank, one on a shopping site, 4 on a social media site, and one each at some utilities. Those are the ONLY uses of that domain for email in the whole world.
Where if it's a domain millions of others use, then addresses are harder to pinpoint down to one person.
That might matter to someone. Or it might not. Depends on what you care about. Just something to be aware of. A custom domain is a huge fingerprinting signal.
Proton's a good alternative.
There's some confused allegations of them being MAGA Facists. But it's a combination of misunderstanding and misrepresentation.
There’s some confused allegations of them being MAGA Facists. But it’s a combination of misunderstanding and misrepresentation.
funny how they're the only ones in this space that keeps making this mistake
Is it funny?
By a sizeable margin they're the largest and most popular in the space. At the same time, that makes them the biggest target and most watched.
Someone even mentioned a possible smear campaign by Google. While there's no evidence at all of that, they would be the most obvious target.
So it's not really funny or odd in any way. It's kind of obvious really.
tuta seems to avoid making this "mistake" and it too has a sizeable following as well as a full complement of privacy respecting services that can rival proton.
They realy aren't, and don't.
Tuta doesn't have even half the user base, or services.
They aren't bad at all. And I don't doubt they'll get there.
But they aren't at all close yet.
I'd love input on this too. I went all in on Proton and it's aging like milk.
it's aging like milk.
Becoming cheese?
Tuta is awesome. You can try their free tier for an unlimited time, so no need to rush it.
Ive been really considering Tuta as my next choice. Do you find it difficult or easy to use for your accounts like bills/finance/important?
I must be out of the loop. What’s the issue with Proton?
I think they sponsored a right-wing French Youtuber, but they publicly apologised and said they didn't know his political alignment.
Is that the whole thing? Genuinely asking.
That is the whole thing.
Seems...pretty thin tbh. I'm not ready to throw baby out with bathwater just yet.
Serious starting to wonder if all this vague, anti-Proton misinformation-posting isn’t just some Google-backed astroturfing campaign
It's not a conspiracy, Proton is a shit company. But, by all means give them your money for security theatre.
Just stick with proton. Email isn’t secure and it doesn’t matter what the company does.
I like and use Migadu.
Yea I'm happy at Migadu as well, it's been 2 years since the switch, not a single hiccup.
Interesting, never heard of that before, I'll check it out
Been using fastmail for ~8 years now. No complaints
Maybe banks flag it because Posteo is a German company and they don't see it as international? Did you raise a ticket with either your bank or Posteo as you're paying for both their services?
Thats what I was thinking too. I was considering opening a ticket with my bank but trying to do that with sites like Paypal and my phone company are extra hassles since their customer services feel non-existant.
I'm also in the US and using Posteo. I've never had any issues (that I recall) with the address being rejected. Have you tried using a Posteo-provided alias with a different domain?
I'm in the same situation, and I'm now seriously considering going all full Infomaniak which has a very good reputation for hosting and privacy. They have a whole suite like Google and even better than Proton's. Mail, drive, office.... Free for up to 15GB then pretty cheap for more. They are in Switzerland and I believe the law there is protective, making the whole service pretty trustworthy imo.
Proton, Tuta, Murena....
I've been using purelymail with my own domains. It's cheap and it works. Depending on the receiving service, sent items do sometimes end up in spam.
What trust are you expecting to get out of an ancient and inherently insecure protol to begin with?
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
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