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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They will literally not care

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 318 points 3 days ago

Neat idea... but I don't think federal law is gonna stop the oligarchs under this administration.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 176 points 3 days ago

It's a good way of getting the protection removed...

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 56 points 3 days ago

Exactly this.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago

They'd likely just rubber stamp an exemption and let them do what they want.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

If not outright kill the entire Endangered Species Act.

[-] lonefighter@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 days ago

I think the way it works now is they take it to court and get the judge to allow them to continue building while the court case works its way through the system and in 6 years when they determine it's illegal the center has already been built for 5.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago

Under the shadow docket, probably.

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, the ship of legalism has long since sailed. It is sad to see how so many in the US has apparently not realised this yet. It is not about laws or the constitution or anything like that. They now strictly do shit because noone is stopping them, regardless of what it is.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 31 points 2 days ago

Do this under the current administration and you'll lose the endangered species act

[-] regdog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That kind of negative thinking will get you nowhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticipatory_obedience

This kind of mind set will only aid the oppressor.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

They'll be getting rid of that on general principles. But you might lose it a couple of weeks earlier

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 158 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

RIP to the Endangered Species Act

No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.

But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago

Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago

Oh god, keep the bamboo and kudzu in their native environments. The ecosystem has been through enough!

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most "invasive" species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn't like.

There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don't get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don't introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don't plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).

[-] Shayeta@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

And also - most critically. When introducting a predator to hunt a specific populous prey, ensure that one of them isn't diurnal while the other is nocturnal.

[-] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago
[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Seems like we should add kudzu bugs and giant pandas to North America, and all will be well 😄

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[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 19 points 2 days ago

I'm sure the pedo in charge, that's just ordered the removal of a deep-ocean observation system, is certainly going to baulk at the thought of removing some plants.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

if today's strategies are anything to go by : nothing is illegal if youre in charge

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 days ago

Lmao they don't even care about humans. You think they'd care about beetles and berries??

[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah I'm sure the guys on the ground would "accidentally" start the diggers before they were "aware" of the Beatles and berries.

[-] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oops a completely accidental accident happened where a van full of pesticide accidentally crashed head on into the tree and exploded it. Accidentally. Oh well, I guess the build is back on at least.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Except it's only native to the central valley in California so if you're anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.

I guess this person just didn't look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn't even native to CA.

Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you'll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.

That said I did just hear they're trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Just plant some American chestnut. Ignore why such a wide ranged tree is endangered

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For everyone who wants to know why it's endangered (like i did): Because of a fungus that originally grew on the japanese chestnut variant (starting in the early 1900s), to which the american chestnut has no resistance - it is estimated that in in first half of that century, three to four billion tree died to that fungus. In the original geographic range of the American chestnut, only 4 mature trees remain. There are still some root systems that sprout saplings, but they get killed off by the fungus quickly. There are some enclaves in other areas that still have a few hundred, like in northern Michigan

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

Haha maybe under a normal president, but this one hates regulation and safety. He LOVES money though.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 days ago

Watch them care, they'll just bulldoze right over these

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

I was once working on a building site of some kind and was told that was known to have some kind of native endangered lizard, we were told “if you think you see one, you didn’t”.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Unfortunately doing this will just get the protections for those species revoked

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

Then apartment owners will use this to plant them in areas where people are trying to build affordable housing.

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

apartment owners

people [...] trying to build affordable housing

Unfortunately, these are often the same people. A developer will usually make a deal with a municipality that requires that x% of new units built must conform to "affordable housing" requirements. That's it. It's kind of a whole scam used so big developers can just develop MORE AND MORE.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

even if that would be an obstacle, it would take mere hours for them to change the law and remove the protection altogether.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i mean republicans are protesting from thier small towns, and some blue states are partially trying to stop it. because these politicians likely see thier re-election chances become slim if they keep going forward with it. some states that is. the only ones that dont care already arnt up for re-election(Mills, whitmer). it works ina blue state , gop states are unlikely to care about it, since they are likely tobow by trump.

[-] dumples@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago

Elderberry is also a wonderful edible medicinal plant. Their berries are delicious and immune boosting

[-] chtk@feddit.nl 21 points 3 days ago

So one's father smelling of elder berries is actually a good thing?

[-] Forester@pawb.social 17 points 3 days ago

Your father is a drunk and your mother the town hore is the literal translation.

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[-] Nefara@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

In case anyone thinks they can grab a berry off the bush, they need to be cooked first

[-] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Now I want elderberry jam on my toast.

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[-] Dojan@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I had no idea Sambucus was native to America. Elder flower is such a quintessential childhood flavour to me.

Edit: So, growing up, my famliy worked at a elder farm for a few years. The name of elder always stuck in my head; Sambucus nigra.

Per Wikipedia, Sambucus nigra, or black elder, is actually native to Europe.

Sambucus can be found natively in large swathes of the world. It's just that the specific type mentioned in the post is native to North America.

Makes me think of how American blueberries here in Sweden has more or less replaced our native blueberries (bilberry) in stores.

[-] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 3 points 2 days ago

The kind of ecological terrorism I approve

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

Stop upvoting x and meta reposts you idiots

[-] waldfee@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
  1. Rude.
  2. What's wrong with liberating content from Facebook and Twitter?
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