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If you have the Brave Browser installed on your Windows devices, then you may also have Brave VPN services installed on the machine. Brave installs these services without user consent on Windows devices.

Brave Firewall + VPN is an extra service that Brave users may subscribe to for a monthly fee. Launched in mid-2022, it is a cooperation between Brave Software, maker of Brave Browser, and Guardian, the company that operates the VPN and the firewall solution. The firewall and VPN solution is available for $9.99 per month.

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago

Brave, owned by Brendan Eich who has donated to homophobic charities and whose browser promotes a load of crypto bro shit on the new tab page.

Unironically, using straight up Google Chrome is better IMO

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

Bro missed his crypto scam chance by 6-12mo and just won't give up.

I tell people to use open source Chromium, Firefox or ... Hell, use Vivaldi or something. Brave is a bad time waiting to happen at this point.

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[-] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 76 points 2 years ago

Would you looks at that brave doing something crazy again.

[-] Sygheil@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago

I've seen this software behaviour back in the day, oh wait its called trojan.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 years ago

Yet another reason to not use Brave.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago
[-] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago

If you care about privacy at all why are you installing brave

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 17 points 2 years ago

Why is every fucking post in the privacy communities just a circle jerk about Brave?

[-] Ashe 4 points 2 years ago
[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know "not everyone who cares about security has anything to hide" but the fact they're so eager to use the pedophile browser is... concerning.

[-] Treczoks@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

And spyware for free, and I would not be surprised if they included an insecure backdoor at no extra cost.

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

As compared to a secure backdoor?

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[-] adonkeystomple@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Well I feel better about making the switch to Firefox now, and doing a custom user.js

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

u/@Max_P said this at the !technology thread:

Software installs services to make its features operate, including optional default off ones. More news at 10.

This is just like any other optional feature of Chromium you don't use

[-] Moderator@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

What is the consensus here on using Brave search in Firefox?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

It's giga cringe

[-] 8bitretro@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

I've posted a similar question to asklemmy but more over the focus on preference than privacy. In short the search engine Kagi is really good, Brave search was what I had used for a while. I think search engine choice is a case by case kinda thing, each person uses what they like. There are some other engines I forgot from my post which are more privacy centered.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago
[-] 8bitretro@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Yes it is 10 dollars a month, but you can create an account and try it for free to see if it is for you. It also does not use your data nor push advertisements which explains the cost.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

ddg does that for free

$10/mo is also crazy overpriced for a search engine, they're really not resource intensive at all

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago

ddg relies on Bing so it isn't really comparable, idk about kagi's costs but they claim 1.2 cent per search and an average of 700 searches per month (as what they are serving and hence pricing for)

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[-] hottari@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I don't use Windows but if you install a program that requires a service on Linux, the service will be written to your system's services daemon awaiting your activation. I don't see what the issue with that is.

[-] citytree@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What's to stop the installer on Linux from configuring the service such that the service always runs on boot? e.g. systemctl enable malware.service.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Linux doesn't have "installers" as Linux uses package managers. The only way you can get malware is if you manually add a bad repo.

So it doesn't really matter in the long run

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[-] hottari@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You still need to manually enable the service. The configuration of the service has zero effect on its activation or lifecycle.

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

Huh? Any script can create a service, enable it and then start it. What would make you think the brave package (or just the application itself) can't do this?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

That doesn't really seem that bad. There are issues with brave but that's not one of them

[-] Muehe@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

A VPN provider has the same level of insight into your traffic as an ISP does when not using a VPN. If having one installed without your consent isn't a privacy issue I don't know what is...

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

Is it activated by default though?

[-] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

I just looked on a VM I spun up for risky shit. It seems to be opt-in only.

Is it a good VPN? No. Is it worth the overreacting that Lemmy seems to do every time someone mentions Brave? No.

But hey, social media.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

Apparently we need a anti brave circle jerk

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