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[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Obviously: while the rest of the party argues, the trigger-happy blaster drops an upcast fireball on the trolley.

Next puzzle, dungeon "master". 😅😶

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Party members can be revived, shinies can't

Also, if the staff is fully charged they'd all be taking 400 damage unless they made the DC 17 Dex save (with disadvantage because they're restrained). And even then they'd take half. Except if they have evasion, which is probably why one of them is smiling XD

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I pull out my immovable rod...

[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

why do we expect the trolley to kill anyone? some of those guys can be bitten by dragons and survive, they'll surely stop the trolley or be able to rip out of the rope on tipe

or the rogue can just undo the knots really fast

[-] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

Let the people die.

The staff of the Magi explodes when its destroyed in a 30' radius.

The people are dead either way, the staff can be saved.

[-] cjoll4@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I think the Retributive Strike has to be an intentional action by the attuned wielder. I don't think damage from external sources triggers it, even if it breaks the staff.

[-] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 2 points 11 hours ago

RAW I agree with you, but since it also explodes if you overcharge it I'd probably flavor rule that it explodes if it breaks too.

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Considering Gygax was notorious for gleefully murdering PC (mine incl [thx GC]), this also tracks for RAI, IMHO.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

Love the one party member in the middle who's just smiling and living their best life.

He knows he's only got a few more moments to live, and he's going to enjoy those moments.

[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago

That’s the rogue. They’ve already slipped their bonds but are waiting until the trolley is blocking the mage’s path to the rod so they can steal it.

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Nah, that's the lore bard just waiting for the trolley to be w/in range of the pompous wizard on the lever while everyone else yells their opinion at said poindexter...

S/he's about to drop an up cast fireball on the trolley, "accidentally" take out the wizard, and get the party to the next puzzle to break ...on the way to cracking their DM's resolve. ☝🏼

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 11 points 1 day ago

Fireball.

How is th--

Fireball.

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Even if you don't like that solution, the chance that someone at the table does and has it loaded, is firmly nonzero.

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 20 points 1 day ago

Don't staves of the magi explode spectacularly when destroyed?

That party might be done for either way.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 12 points 1 day ago

That is, in fact, the joke.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

But you can't destroy artifacts/magic items and I don't see the Trolley being attuned to the staff and able to use the Retributive Strike Action.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 8 points 1 day ago

You CAN destroy magic items. And this one has special rules for being broken, none of which mention having to be attuned to trigger it.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

And this one has special rules for being broken, none of which mention having to be attuned to trigger it.

"Retributive Strike" is a magic property (just like 'Power Strike' and its Spell List). You can't activate or benefit from magic properties on non-attuned Magic Items/Artifact.

So if you break the Staff of Magi without using that Action, well it becomes just a broken Staff.

Also thanks for teaching me that one can indeed can break magic items, that non-destructible nature only applies to Artifacts.

[-] SparroHawc@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It can be argued that you are not benefiting from the magic property in this instance, but instead suffering from it - in which case, it is valid for it to explode when run over.

If you try to use it as a bomb without attuning it, then it will fail.

[-] Blubber28@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

IIRC, When a staff of the magi snaps, it explodes. So the party will die either way. You're just gonna have to decide whether you want a shiny item or not :P

[-] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I have spare the dying prepared, we’re good.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh sorry I have die the spared prepared as a reaction

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

See? Now, I'm curious what other fun spells'd come outta flipping the word order of existent ones. 🤩

Like, would conjuring a Hand Mage call up a street magician?

Also, would Person Hold be a ritual hug spell?

Or, Cage Force grant a target incredible Con-Air hair?

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago

Depends on what spells I have prepared

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Cast Wall of Force in front of the trolley destroying the trolley, and saving everyone. Then I take the staff.

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

That's an odd way to cast Fireball, but sure. 🧏🏼

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Trick question, the lever was actually an immovable rod with a cap glued over the button.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

*Sovereign Glued over the button

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The trick is getting said sovereign into glue form in the first place. That's basically why the item's so rare. They're super wily, that way.

[-] Archpawn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It depends. Did I learn Gentle Repose, and is that staff worth more than 2,500 gp?

[-] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 day ago

It depends because official magic item prices are vague and bad, but Sane Magic Item Pricing has items that go up to 165,000gp and considers the staff of the magi too powerful to price.

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Something tells me that researcher wasn't allowed to hold the staff and just decided to cover for lack of citable valuation spec. Or, the bearer at the time paid their academic fees, etc.

Either way, everything has a price, no matter if it's for sale —especially to a D&D party. 😐 It may not manifest as commerce, but it will cost them.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's an artifact level magic item. It's worth considerably more than 2500 gp. Probably closer to 100,000-200,000 gp

[-] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Side note: you subconsciously pilfer for the proletariat? Sounds like a tough gig. Your ire is likely well-placed, and I support your low-altitude efforts. 🤘🏼

[-] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What would Sheldor do?

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