If you're a web dev, and you implement this, just know you won't receive my web traffic. Ill go live with the other robots and we will start our own internet with blackjack and hookers.
how do you do, fellow human
I too, enjoy the company of blackjack and to play hookers
Add me to your beta list . .please!
That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.
Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.
Unless it was the website I needed inorder to receive an organ donation, I would just close it.
I could claim that's an act of righteous protest, but really I just know that absent my needing a new liver, there's no website I would ever care enough about to get me to scan a QR code just to keep browsing.
Ignoring the de-Googled phones for a sec: I assume if you're using a desktop, then the QR shows up and you have to drag out your phone to scan it in the camera app that then prompts to open the google play store. Dumb, but possible for people who have a phone with Android. What about those that don't? Would you need a google account?
Now if it's all on phone (using Chrome or Firefox or whatever) and pops up a QR code, you can't scan it... but the browser would have to open the play store directly and thats a huge security no-no. The browser shouldn't even know I have the Play Store.
I have a feeling the hundreds of us that are de-Googled ad just going to stop using these sites all together.
...and what about iPhone owners?
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652
According to this support page only older iOS versions would need additional app. So I can assume Apple and Google collaborate on that and Apple added the "feature" in newer iOS already.
Bro wtf? Time to stop using the website using these anti-competitive captchas. I hope they get fined for this
And desktop users? Will Linux and any non-Google Chrome browsers be locked out now?
This is awesome news for scammers:
Wtf
I won't install an app to access a fucking website.
A lot of Android bot devices simulate (or even ARE) a full phone with a legit Play Store and other Google services.
This requirement is enforced vendor lock in. Nothing more.
Wait wait wait. To prove you’re human you have to read something designed for computers to read?
And any service that uses it can fuck off.
"Google's next-gen reCAPTCHA system could spell trouble for any website that implements it as no de-Googled phone user will care to use it"
That demographic is so small as to be irrelevant to the majority of companies.
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As if it were a matter of caring or wanting/not wanting to use websites... It would be really nice to live in such a world where one could have the luxury of "choosing". Unfortunately, it's not this world for many people and many peoples.
To exemplify this, there are websites I, as a Brazilian, can't simply choose whether to use or not, because there are government and bureau websites for services through which I'm expected to comply with citizen things I didn't ask for (as I didn't ask to be born in this world to begin with). Online services such as "DETRAN" (state-wise transportation bureaus where one must renew one's driver's license), which I remember having to click a reCAPTCHA in order to proceed with transportation-related citizen duties. I can't have the luxury of saying "you know what, I'm not renewing my driver's license which has become my ID for a plethora of services not even related to driving, which means I'm going ID-less and becoming a legally-indigent person in the eyes of the next cop that requests my ID".
Hell, I can't even choose to have a degoogled phone because our customs (Receita Federal) will likely deny the entry for any "unlicensed device" (i.e. devices not licensed by ANATEL, Brazilian telecommunication agency). And installing a custom ROM in any available device is not without the risk of bricking the device (and losing a monthly minimum wage worth of money spent with said device) especially for someone like me who never installed custom ROMs.
Again, would be really awesome to live in the world you described where one could afford "caring to use" things...
Would this pass in EU? Seems anti competition. Do we need another movement like stop chat control to mobilize people?
It's not just anti-competition, but anti-privacy - Google will know exactly who is going to what sites, regardless of your browser.
Then I'll just not use the services that use it, very stupid, as this shouldn't be necessary
It turns out reCAPCHA has been a privacy nightmare from the beginning: from silently monitoring user activity in the background, to sending payment information to Google; in order for an AI to assess the data, and return a risk-score to the website. But that apparently wasn't bold enough, and now an effective 2FA is required, which provides additional telemetry to Google (but not to the website or app: which is obviously the privacy concern). So get ready to 2FA with Google upon registration, login, updating your cart, and payment; or to skip the hassle, you should just let an approved "shopping assistant" make purchases for you ("that drive a projected 25% increase in average order value"). I don't even own a modern Android or iOS device, so how am I supposed to solve these?
I think I'll just go to a local store and pay in cash instead. I'm starting to think the Amish have the right idea, anyone know where I can rent a horse and buggy?
I'm getting real tired of the escalating corporate-mediated fascism.
This is evil. Fuck it. I want nothing to do with these cunts anymore. I'm degoogling this year.
There is a fucking huge market for non Google non iPhone come on somebody get the fuck on it
I was wondering how they would screw the new Motorola phones coming out since they couldn't do the whole "factory operating system has been tampered with" mode of whining and being little bitches.
Glad to see their engineers came up with another way to fuck us! Thanks google!
This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.
How is this going to work if you're browsing the internet on your phone??
It SHOULD spell bad news for the people that use this verification method because it just means they lose those customers.
Time to degoogle for good, then.
I would never scan a qr code to verify that I'm not a bot. I'd simply close the page
Uhhhh. What if I'm not using a Google device? Is just the entire internet going to be gated behind Android?
At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.
What is that supposed to mean? What QR code? Just any? I'm supposed to find some QR code laying around and scan it? Or will the webpage display a QR and I'm supposed to scan it with my phone using a mirror or something?
Surely this would be nearly impossible for visually impaired people, which makes me question the ability for governments to implement this on their websites.
I know about screen reader software for visual impairment, but to expect a blind person use a separate device with a camera to take a “photo” of a QR code on another screen is beyond comprehension. Well, at least it would be in the normal timeline.
I guess I’ll have to switch to a dumb phone out of spite now.
Verify by qr = insta hacked
This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human. Although this will stop an autonomous bot in its tracks, it also adds another step to verification. But the problem runs a little deeper than the annoyance of a single additional step.
I didn't see what the spec of this new recaptcha is but my first thought is an android emulator and a free google account combined with whatever bot/LLM wants to pass through is probably going to be what happens.
And as we all know, they're going to say that not using a Genuine™ Android® Operating System is extremely suspicious.
Fucking assholes
Fuck that. One of the biggest offenders of web scraping and bot traffic wants to force us all to install their spyware just to verify that we're human when there have already been much simpler ways to do this without that bullshit captcha for years...
Yeah, don't use Google. We will dwell in an alternative Web and soon it really will be illegal...
I think I will just install Ubuntu Touch on my phones in a few months. Feels like it's just time to abandon ship.
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