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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 372 points 3 months ago

Love that some megacorp can just make decisions like this that affects billions of people.

Really just feeling the fucking freedom. I hate everything.

[-] datendefekt@feddit.org 82 points 3 months ago

The megacorps can do anything they want with their product. The chef can change the menu anytime and he can refuse you service - it's his restaurant. Our problem is that it's a duopoly and there's nowhere else to go.

The only way out is open standards and platforms, enabling true competition.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 124 points 3 months ago

Real quick.

Just imagine you order a plate of pasta. You're only two bites in, and it's DELICIOUS.

Then here comes chef. While making full eye contact, he tips your plate and dumps all of that pasta in the trash.

Chef proceeds to take a giant wet shit onto the plate. He brings a new set of silverware and a fresh napkin right before your server comes back with the check.

You insist that you didn't order a giant wet shit, but they won't take it off the bill.

Let's stop pretending this is an inevitable oopsie. This shit is egregious.

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 25 points 3 months ago

Daddy Googs won't be happy until it's a walled garden just like iOS

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[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago

Android was an open standard and platform, a LONG time ago. Then Google did a rug pull with all new features of android requiring 100% of their services to function.

[-] datendefekt@feddit.org 24 points 3 months ago

No, it wasn't ever. It always belonged to Google who benevolently open sourced parts of it and retains control.

Safetynet and PlayIntegrity are under Google's control. The PlayStore is Google's. All of the APIs are Google's! Hardware blobs are closed and belong to the manufacturer.

Just because some of the stuff shows up on GitHub doesn't make it an open platform.

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 208 points 3 months ago

Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best option we have.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

What about fairphone? Don’t they run a Ubuntu option?

[-] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 34 points 3 months ago

Hijacking as I've done on other posts. In my country all 3 major tellcos needed to verify phones can call emergency on VoLTE.

FP5 does this. For whatever reason the telcos cant "conform" that (its not sold here but important and DOES work) so the device is blocked at a network level.

Not blocked just for calls but even data.

Phone is now a brick. Double brick once the Android changes roll through.

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The issue with Ubuntu Touch is that unfortunately it uses an outdated Android kernel (which is also usually not receiving security updates) and a Halium abstraction layer to access the closed source binary blob Android drivers for the phone’s hardware. It also requires that it be installed on top of an existing Android install, so in all it’s more of Linuxified layer on top of Android, which means it’s not truly escaping the control of the Android/Google ecosystem.

UBPorts also appears to inherit the use of CLA's from Canonical:

I'm very much not a fan of CLA's., which SailfishOS also employs.

The advantage of PostmarketOS (even though it is not ready as a daily driver for the average person), is that it uses the upstream Linux kernel with open-source GPU/hardware drivers, not an Android kernel to access the outdated proprietary GPU/Hardware blobs.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 129 points 3 months ago

At the end of the day, all you can really do is to start treating your phone more like a phone and stop carrying it everywhere and using it for everything.

The convenience of it has made it way too easy for people to spy on you.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 42 points 3 months ago

No. You can do a lot more. You can develop alternatives and enforce anti monopoly legislation.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 23 points 3 months ago

Yep. My disdain for the combination of fascist government where everything is surveillance, and sociopathic corporations and billionaires where everything is a cynical cash grab, overcame me excitement for tech "products" a long time ago. I'm in the US so it's especially bad.

I still have a smart phone that's 4-5 years old, and I do of course use it every day, but I consciously avoid using it every hour. I love when I misplace it in my own house, to then not look for it for hours. The only person who is going to message me anything urgent is my wife and she knows where to find me.

Constant phone addiction is one of those situations where when you remove yourself from it you can more easily see it in others. It's like there's a new form of body language where when you see that slight forward tilt of the head you know they are in the Phone Zone without even seeing the rest of their body.

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[-] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 months ago

My wife would hate it, if I were no longer reachable.

No. I haven't used Google apps on my phone for years already. That includes Google Play Services and the Play Store. Most apps are open source and I'm self hosting my media.

We gotta claw this shit back.

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[-] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 106 points 3 months ago

We need go start talking about the year of the GNU/Linux phone

[-] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 29 points 3 months ago

Or the year of free (as in freedom) pocket computers, since the global telephony system goes against the freedoms.

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[-] voidsignal@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

it's never been your phone, bruh

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[-] sudo_shinespark@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago

Concerning that this thread is overrun with bots telling me to download some super duper safe LLM

[-] axum 22 points 3 months ago

Yeah this whole comment section is weird as fuck.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 months ago

Ok, so I might as well buy an iPhone then because this is the only thing android did better lmao. Fuck you google.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 49 points 3 months ago

I hate Mussolini, i'll side with that Hitler guy

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[-] vext01@feddit.uk 48 points 3 months ago
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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People thinking this isn't a monopoly enforcement action in disguise are the same people who think banning Huawei was justified.

Google's one mistake was that they sold Motorolla to Lenovo, who ran it as low cost shovelware to make the mobile phone market in the US not look like a complete oligopoly. They kept their cost low by using complete stock Google ROMs while every other OEM exited the market.

Until recently when Lenovo properly built up their hardware lineup and started jumping ship to GrapheneOS the moment Google started clamping down.

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[-] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 40 points 3 months ago
[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 months ago

Android Hostages lol, what am I supposed to do use an Iphone?

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[-] vogi@piefed.social 34 points 3 months ago

I was just getting home picking up my new second hand Pixel 3a to install PostmarketOS on. Wish me luck :)

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Love how every comment in this thread is just the same guy spamming some AI bullshit website. They are all 1 day old accounts from Lemmy.cafe instance. Blocked all of them.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 29 points 3 months ago

I got grapheneOS on my phone right now. Go fuck yourself, google.

I will also do my damn best to make sure my older Samsung S23 doesn't fall into that version. I have uses for that phone.

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[-] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

I currently run GraphineOS. I will probably buy one more refurb phone that can run it until Android is dead. Then I am switching to a dumb phone for calls and SMS, and a mobile hotspot connected to a pocket sized cyberdeck. I can still run the apps I want and no longer need Android. With a 3d printer, 25 years of being an electrical and software engineer I can easily make a device that does what I actually want.

Is this practical for the average person? Of course not. But this whole problem is something the average person can fix. STOP BUYING SHIT FROM COMPANIES WHO SCREW YOU!!! Use your power as a consumer and stop giving them money. Make them feel the pain of doing anti-consumer actions. None of this stuff is a requirement for life. If they see a hit in sales, if everyone who makes apps pulls them from the app store, they will change. But it requires everyone to act, and we damn well know most of yall will do nothing but complain.

This problem is a foot gun where we are all buying the gun, loading it, handing it to someone while sticking our foot out and we want to blame them for the bloody hole. Stop it!

[-] Newhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

How much I agree with you!!! Unfortunately, i don't have this kind of knowledge, oh I wish I had ! I am not even capable to custom ROM to Lineage Os or GOS.. in my circle of friends they are all drawn in Google and not seeing any problem at all. I wish I could be supported during process of customizing OS. I think I already do a pretty great job being with any Google app or service last 3 years, though.

[-] TransNeko@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

-- sincerely Apple users.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 months ago

As a person who uses a few sideloaded apps, this is sad news.

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[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This was just inevitable for Google. Google is no longer an open source company. Hasn't been for maybe a decade or more. They abused the good spirit of open source for their corporate benefit and are ending that relationship on their terms. Get used to it Android users.

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

I would prefer that Alphabet keep Android open, but honestly, how can anybody be surprised? Eventually Google is going to tighten the screws on Android. I haven't looked into it, but hopefully there are some truly free options out there. Graphene?

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[-] viov@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

We must all keep pushing people to go against this and to build up Linux mobile alternatives: PostmarketOS, Ubuntu Touch, JollaOS, and semi by extension, GrapheneOS

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