Trtworld is just Erdogan's personal propaganda channel. Obviously this article is ok but I'm just saying
Is that why they beheaded babies, paraded naked women before/after raping/killing them, targeted civilian congregations and killed them without warning? Wait.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Both sides have done wrong. Isreal has attacked ambulances unprovoked. Hamas attacked Isreal at a music fest. Isreal retaliated by attacking schools and hospitals (aka, people that had nothing to do with said attack) Isreal has been subjugating Gaza to sub-human conditions for 20+ years. The attack on the music fest isn't justified but it is understandable.
Again. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Hamas launches their rockets from random roofs, stores the rockets in schools and hospitals. The blood is on Hamas hands.
Still shit when innocent people get hit, no question. Israel has their fare share of atrocities, so no need to "give" them some of Hamas shit.
The Hamas attacks were barbaric and horrific. Israel giving 1 million+ people 24 hours to leave or risk being destroyed in a bombing campaign while cutting off access to food, water, and fuel is barbaric and horrific. There is such thing as nuance, but it doesn't take very much critical thinking to recognize that both Israel and Hamas are commiting atrocities.
It serves Israel for Hamas to exist. Everything Hamas does leads to the death of Palestinians more than Israelis.
Israel protects their people, instead of investing everything into trying to destroy the enemy. Hamas even digs out water pipes to build more rockets. As per their own propaganda Video, no less. They are proud of that.
Everything you know about Hamas you've learned from Israel and the US government.
A counter example: X initiates violence. Y steps in to end this, and partially succeeds. X wants to continue. Y oppresses X to prevent it.
Not saying that resembles the Israel-Hamas conflict, just that the logic is a bit flawed. In most random street violence situations, the oppressed in the end was the person who initiated the violence.
So, why does Palestine still house and hold a high opinion over Hamas? A terrorist group just lives over there in Gaza Strip and Palestine doesn't lift a finger to get rid of them.
To you, me, and many of us, they're a terrorist group, but to those who get stepped on by the Zionist for decades, who have their home bombed, who land got stolen, who families and relatives got killed, they are their only hope.
They are their hope? By mudding over 1'000 innocent people? Well, looks like they fucked up. But I assume this is what Hamas wanted to begin with, since they don't care about Palestinians at all.
Yep. Two group need to cease to exists for this war to end, Hamas and the Zionist. Both group goal is to eradicate each other, kinda like that two giant from Xenoblade Chronicle.
Why did Israeli police do nothing to stop the increasing violence perpetrated by illegal Israeli Settlers attacking Palestinians, of which Palestinian police are forbidden to react to? Their cops aren't allowed to do anything, their illegal occupants cops won't do anything, and the majority of Israeli Jews say they dont want Palestinians to have the right to vote if they annex Gaza. A minority of Israelis support a two state solution.
It's not like Israel has been trying to play ball with them.
They're in an open-air prison. They don't house anybody.
Why are there still Kahanites in Israel's government?
Also, get rid of Hamas with what. Are you going to give them weapons to do it?
And everything they don't do changes nothing, they're slowly dying and have been for a while now. Their public image changed nothing, and it wasn't about to.
I don't know if you noticed but it's been more than 24 hours since they said that and they're still letting them evacuate. Time to retire that talking point.
Sure. Except "letting them evacuate" in this case is better characterized as "continuing to expel them from their homes under threat of violence." I'm not arguing the 24 hour time period is the atrocity, I'm arguing the act of creating a humanitarian crisis under the auspices of a military campaign effort is abhorrent.
It's not like we don't have any good reporting on the matter either. The BBC for example has already been attacked because they refused to declare Hamas as terrorists (a label I agree with, for the record). [This article](BBC News - Khan Younis: A Gaza city on its knees, now with a million mouths to feed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67116403) provides some insight into the absolute horror regular Palestinians are going through right now.
When Israel declared war, what do you think that meant exactly?
It meant they're gonna finish their 60 year genocide, duh.
You are falling for the propaganda friend.
Propaganda? Have you not seem the videos?
Which videos? I have seen the pictures they were trying to use to justify beheaded babies.
Spoiler alert, no beheaded babies!
What about parading dead, innocent people through town and cheering for it?
Do you want to see crispy, burned babies? Together with their parents? Do you think they did not commit absolutely fucked up atrocities?
Those are awful. But, you should remove "beheading babies" as there's been no proof of that and you lose a little legitimacy saying it.
Those are fucked up things that I completely denounce.
Fuck Hamas and fuck Israel.
My only support is for all the innocents involved.
Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded ... - CNN https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html
I don't think any babies were beheaded
Seems that one might be a mistake. But the rest isn't, instead they did things like tie children and then shoot them.
The only party interested in genocide is Hamas. And Iran.
I haven't really kept up with this, so this is a genuine question—why are people protesting in the US about something going on in another country? What is the goal?
Because the US provides tons of money and weapons to Israel, which are supposed to be used for self-defense but are now being used to mass murder Palestinians.
This, plus the fact that the US refuses to be even slightly critical of Israel, whether media or state.
Israel has a fascist stranglehold over United States domestic policy. It is illegal to boycott the state of Israel. They spend millions of the dollars we support them with to interfere with domestic US politics. The state of Israel is an enemy of the American people.
The goal is to influence the government to respond in a certain way, protests are a faster and more direct way to show support than sending letters and voting
There is a 0 percent chance of Israel doing anything ever if they weren't confident they would have US backing
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