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Life is a terminal illness and tomorrow is promised to no one.
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And new friend for life, even if only for a day!
Any adult should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with their own body.
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I mean they kinda are. It's called hospice and it's when they break open the good shit.
Unfortunately, a lot of people arent.
Due largely to religious bullshit (at least in america), its very very difficult to get death with dignity. My grandma has parkinsons, she wants to go on hospice before it takes her brain, but her doctor is Catholic and decided its against his religion to let her die as she wants to.
Shes trying to find a doctor who will let her, but its very very difficult. Its still considered murder in most of the country, and even most Hospice doctors wont do anything besides not resuscitate. We have to be careful to not call an ambulance for her, because if she goes to a hospital, the doctor is allowed to just ignore her DNR if thats against their religion.
Are real actual medical doctors even allowed to do that based on religion?
Not just allowed, actively pushed to do so.
The doctor she goes to did it, just decided that it was against his religion for her to decide to go on hospice care.
Even if he would allow it, in order for her to get on hospice, her doctor would have to go in front of an ethics committee and argue for her to be allowed to go on hospice. If anyone on the ethics committee objects, she isn't allowed.
California has a right-to-die law (one of very few states that does). You are allowed to die if your doctor can prove that your disease will kill you in 6 months, that you are coherent (at the time of death, you cant sign anything beforehand for it), if you are capable of taking the suicide pills without assistance.
The doctor has to document that you made two separate distinct verbal requests, 48 hours apart. Has to document that your disease will kill you in 6 months, has to document that you are able to take the pills on your own with no assistance (too weak to die? too bad). The case is automatically reviewed (and they will try to take away the doctors license every time).
And anyone involved is allowed to stop you if they object on any grounds.
Killing yourself is a sin in most versions of Christianity, so its effectively illegal in most of the country, and any doctor that is willing to let you has to really really work to not get their license taken and them thrown in jail.
Hospice is not the same thing as assisted suicide though
True.
But Hospice is generally required to get to assisted suicide tho.
Or at least, it was when my dad finally got to die.
The normal doctor wouldn't do it, the hospital didnt allow it except for in hospice.
And then we had to fight for a week to get the hospice doctor to let him die.
They don't. They base their decision on religion, but they justify it with big medical and sciencey words. But they'll tell you it's due to their faith (if they're so bold).
My grandmas doctor just straight up said that killing yourself is a sin and its against his religion to help her commit a sin when she asked to go on hospice.
I got severe pushback from a nurse for saying DNR when I was last in the hospital. It seems that healthcare workers often possess no ethics, standards, or intellect in the USA.
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YSK hospice basically means they starve you to death but they keep you high so you don't care. They do not feed you, they sit you in a chair and hook you up to the drugs. Maybe that's a better way to go than going without the drugs, but that's pretty much what they do. Maybe some of them overdose you, I'm not really sure. It's state assisted suicide. And it's not quick. If it's what people want I'm not saying to take away their choice and I'm not saying it's an easy choice, but I wouldn't romanticise hospice. If nothing else, look into exactly what they do and don't do. It may vary from place to place. If you have something really bad like, say, cancer and chemo isn't helping, and the cancer will take you before the starvation... it can be the better option. I am not familiar with Parkinson's and I'm certainly not judging your family!
...that's not how hospice works. Hospice is just care to keep a patient comfortable through a condition they're not expected to survive. Food can be part of keeping a patient comfortable if they're able to eat. Some people aren't able to eat, and then you start getting into the hard questions like whether it's ethical to keep someone alive with a feeding tube and IV drip just so their brain can soak up more morphine, but the cutoff of life sustaining treatments depends a lot on the nature of the condition, what the patient stated when they were in a sound state of mind previously via a 'living will', or at the discretion of family.
But yeah, you can be on hospice for months - they absolutely feed you unless there's some reason not to. You can also come off of hospice if the underlying condition improves on its own and it starts to look like you'll actually recover - it's not a death sentence or assisted suicide or anything.
Treatment depends on condition, they don't just starve everyone to death
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IDK what kind of hospice you've been to but my grandmother was basically pumped full of morphine for nearly an entire year before she passed of "totally not a morphine overdose."
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And often just enough to let someone with a weak constitution drift off gently into that good night when they're ready.
It's one of those unstated aspects of it. It's not "assisted suicide," but they'll hook you up with a PCA pump of morphine alongside scheduled doses of potentially more powerful painkillers that will help you fall asleep and never wake up.
Unless you're in a "right to die" region and have jumped through all the hoops, they can't administer a lethal injection of a substance simply intended to kill. But they can administer enough pain medication to kill a horse. They'll give as much as needed to ensure comfort, which takes priority over organ failure and risk of death, since that is already a bygone conclusion.
My wife died of breast cancer moving to her brain last October. They did NOT break out the good stuff. They supplied the weakest painkillers and measured them every visit so they knew if I was over dosing her or stealing some. And from her reaction I dont think the stuff was strong enough.
We are all suffering from a terminal condition, known as life.
So yeah drugs for everyone.
a famous one in france a lady was suffering a very rare cancer, the govt refused to give her life-ending drugs, so she got some from the streets, barbituates or whatever and just OD on it.
What a legend. 🫡
"What you gonna do? Put my dead body in jail?"
If I know I'm gonna be dead soon, realistically, who's gonna stop me?
What's stopping you is unavailability of those drugs.
Well, for once, when my grandparents were terminally ill...they did not seem to be able to meet their dealer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People ~~with terminal illnesses/in their last days~~ should be allowed to have any drugs they want.
All Drugs should be Legalized.
For adults
Obvious, isn't it?
And turtles
I think you might be overestimating the capacity to enjoy anything at that point
Exactly why drugs should not be illegal at any time during life, instead of just at the end when some figment of our moral imagination would allow it out of pity.
People in this thread are romanticising end of life as frolicking happily at a party one moment and slipping away in a magical slumber the next.
Most likely you’d be in bed either crying fo pain meds or asleep after having been given pain meds.
I too would, from where i am now love the idea of my consciousness slipping away while tripping on dmt but i recognize that once the time comes i may not desire nor care anymore.
Yes, of course. Most people die from something. I think OP's point stands though. Enough morphine puts you far away from the pain even if it doesn't lessen it (I have used it that way for my very rare status migraines before the state disallowed it) and that does provide relief. When I get there, overdose sounds like the best of the set of bad choices available.
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There are definitely some drugs I’ve tried that I would not want to do while staring death in the face. But I agree it should be a personal choice. Basically I think it should be at any point in life.
Hospice has the good shit
any drugs they want.
How about any drugs they can afford, because that is sort of what we have now (speaking for the US).
How about any drugs they can afford, because that is sort of what we [don't] have now
FTFY
i agree! i was terminal, uh, something like twenty years ago we should throw a party. some people get all of the luck. what i mean is, do i still get to cash in?
we're all in our last days pal
Yeah I snuck in Cigarettes to my grandmother in hospice. She wanted them, asked in between gasps for them. So I did. We wheeled her outside and let her smoke.
After that they didn't let her back out until she died. I sort of understand but at the same time, what is she holding out for? Its over. They treat dying adults like children and I think that's wrong.
Agreed, I can't wait to load up on Adrenochrome when I'm a little older.
I for one would love to try heroine, but I know myself well enough that I am sure I'd get severely addicted and hit rock bottom pretty much immediately. So that's my deathbed wish.
Sure, yes. I don't even do drugs anymore, and was never really into opiates when I did, but my experience coming out of anaesthesia with a nurse who was remarkably free handed with opiates in the IV as she didn't want me to wake up quite yet convinced me that is the way to go. Let me just float out on a soft cloud. It's an annoying feeling when awake and trying to do anything; but as a death it seems perfect.
Honestly if you're over 40 or 50 and you're using it yourself and not sharing it, I think you should be able to legally do drugs regardless. At that point you know well enough what it will do and should be free to decide.
I'd say if you're old enough to be drafted or vote.
An adult.
I've always said this, and that age was a long time ago for me.
They key is proper education. If I understand the risks, then it's on me.
Not sharing is kind of a dick move though.
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