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[-] tal@lemmy.today 113 points 2 months ago

A Kuala Lumpur-bound AirAsia flight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia

AirAsia X Berhad (MYX: 5238), operating as AirAsia, is a Malaysian multinational low-cost airline headquartered near Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

I mean, you're on a budget Malaysian airline flying to Malaysia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia

National language (official): Malay[a][b][c]
Recognised languages: English[c]

[-] hr_@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Don't get me wrong, this woman is a Karen and actually quite typical of the mainland China entitlement and behavior. BUT there's a massive amount of mandarin speaking people in Malaysia to the point where it's a destination for mainland Chinese. Not excusing her ridiculous behavior but providing context here.

[-] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 100 points 2 months ago

Unless you experienced Asian racism you didn't experience racism fully. They don't like anyone, even their own people. I've witness people being racist because someone is from another village let alone a city or country. I wonder if they also hate themselves as well.

[-] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 54 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't hating someone from another village just be like generic Xenophobia? I can't imagine two villagers from the same Asian country but two different villages are genetically distinct enough to count as different "races". Or are we just using "racist" to mean "bigoted"

[-] Klear@quokk.au 37 points 2 months ago

Race is a social construct, not genetic.

[-] srecko@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

I agree, but that construct has a specific meaning, we don't consider a random person from nearby village to be a different race.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

"We" isn't as universal as you are suggesting here.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Depends. Many Asian countries consists of many different ethnic groups. So they do see each other as different races.

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[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The word "rasist" is nowadays often used more widely. You're right about the strict definition. I also think it's reasonable to use it in a wider sense if the underlying feelings are the same, which seems to be the case here.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But, I mean, English already has a word for that (bigoted).

Having, and properly using, different words for even slightly different concepts is important for efficient and effective communication. If everyone just starts lazily using one word to mean multiple similar concepts, when other words already exist for those concepts, then that just leads to misunderstandings and confusion.

I understand that non-native speakers may not yet have the vocabulary necessary to use the correct words, but that's an opportunity for them to learn the correct words, not an excuse to dumb down the language.

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Very good point, that doesn't seem like racism to me either

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 40 points 2 months ago

I play EVE Online which has a decently sized Chinese playerbase and my god those racist fucks would give racists in the west a run for their money. See it daily of "small brained whites" or "The whites are here" or "white pig" or "sleepy whites".

But as soon as you joke and say "man it looks like the Tianamen Square Massacre of 1989 in here" in local chat they all collectively freak out on you.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well man, they just are being mean and you suddenly drop a -100k social credit account bomb with area of effect.

[-] setsubyou@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

I've witness people being racist because someone is from another village

We have this in Germany too. Traditionally, the area where I live hates the area where I was born. These two places are maybe an hour apart and in the same state. All because they were governed by different nobles ages ago who had different ideas about Christianity. Tbh though it was much more of a thing in my parents’ generation.

[-] mech@feddit.org 51 points 2 months ago

In Germany, hating others based on where they were born becomes more socially accepted the closer the "other" gets.
Hating people from other countries is bad, hating people from East Germany is problematic, hating people from the neighboring German state is OK and hating people from the neighboring village is funny.

[-] nysqin@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

Damn, that's surprisingly apt.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I mean? If it leads to a mostly harmless rivalry, that’s quite fun.

Somehow, I get the feeling it’s not that.

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Yes I have experienced the exact same. I was questioned by "locals" when I moved villages. They wanted to know if I was doing enough for the community and keeping up with local events. My man I was born less than 10kms away.

I guess they just prefer inbreeding and keeping the village to themselves. Not realizing without all the new construction and new people the village would have died out 20 years ago.

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[-] mech@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

That's not racism, that's just being an asshole.

[-] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

I mean, people in a town I lived in were upset because kids from the next town over were using the public swimming pool. This was in northern Virginia, so not liking people from another village anywhere in the world hardly seems strange.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

seems like classist/elitist, than racism.

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[-] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 44 points 2 months ago

The 'everyone should adapt to my needs' shit needs to end for all countries

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Si, me tienen las pelotas re contra llenas

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 months ago

Lo siento. Toma esta pelota.

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[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 40 points 2 months ago

I wonder what the Chinese equivalent of a Karen is...

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

It’s delightful to see this phenomenon happening in another country.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago
[-] SorryImLate@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

Interesting read but not the same as a Karen in my mind.

Teng Wei, a professor at South China Normal University wrote, "When we use dama as an insult, what we're really doing is suggesting that there's something inherently wrong with being a middle-aged woman. It's ageist, classist — and it's time to stop."

[-] mech@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago

Of course it's not the same. It's a completely different culture and history.
But Teng Wei's criticism applies to the "Karen" insult as well.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

Let's be honest - that exact same subtle misogyny follows "Karen" as well.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago

People being surprised that bad people can come from other countries is a weird take on US exceptionalism that I didn't expect.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Really? I see it every time. Bad thing happens in US: "Of course it did. Where else could it?" Bad thing happens outside of US: "Wow. [Other Place] really acting like the US here." Apparently racism, violence, and most other human sins only exist in the US to some people. It's weird.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 2 months ago

This, but especially since Trump was elected again it's been notched up to 11,000. It's quite annoying actually

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Lots of countries have their own exceptionalism going on. Especially in the demographics that can afford to travel.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago

I’m not saying she was right, but I will say, if I was flying from the United States to Mexico, I would be very confused if the flight crew only spoke Chinese.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Didn't expect a Chinese Karen on my timeline this morning.

[-] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 5 points 2 months ago

This makes me wonder: what is the Mandarin-language equivalent of the American "Karen?"

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[-] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago

British thing as well. Fuck you if you're from Derby.

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[-] allywilson@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Rise of the Mandarin-elite?

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

Rise of the Mandarolians

[-] SorryImLate@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

New world order on its way. I wonder how long it will take Western countries to start offering Mandarin in school.

Edit to add: To clarify: I don't mean offered as an optional language but as mandatory, the way English is right now in, for example, Switzerland.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Learning Mandarin in public west europe school has been possible for literal decades.

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[-] allywilson@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

...Pretty sure it was offered 20 years ago in Scotland, a friend's son was doing it.

[-] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 3 points 2 months ago

I knew of a lot of racist types in my youth (so, 25+ years ago) who would encourage kids to learn Mandarin because "in a few years we'll all be working for them."

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