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German Social Democratic Party leader Saskia Esken has boycotted a Bernie Sanders event over his supposedly anti-Israel statements. Bernie’s statement? “The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it.”

ED: A recent episode with a popular German political podcaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01qZutfh4M

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 175 points 1 year ago

Fucking virtue signaling for team Israel.
It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government. That is NOT antisemitism.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

It's antisemitism to insist that Jewish people who don't even live there are connected to Israel's crimes aginst humanity

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, I don't know what that has to do with notable Jewish senator Bernard Sanders that lived in a Kibbutz in Israel at one time, though.

[-] propaganja@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Quite notable, that Bernard.

[-] livus@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Might not be all that commited to her virtue signalling, at that.

Someone who closely monitors her wikipedia page is trying to keep this information on her political position from appearing there...

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government.

No, it's not if you are German.

And this has nothing to to with some signaling for team Israel. If a single high-ranking politician in Germany would be caught saying that Israel is commiting war crimes the international media wouldn't need more than 30 minutes before the calls for invading to denazify Germany again would start. And with the usual hateful morons being in control it would only need to another 30 minutes before we had reached the bomb them all and finally destroy that failed country stage on social media.

You should really try having any opinoin but one of highest praise and adoration for Israel as a random nobody from Germany on social media. Then you might understand actual reality. This is not Germans that call for your immidiate execution the moment you dare to criticise Israel.

FFS... I dared to mention over on Reddit that Hamas' terrorist acts don't suddenly make Israel's actions right and now have another dozen new messages calling me a nazi or calling for me to be shot (or both) for my collection, alongside with a lot of new messages from Reddit's mental health bot offering me all the hotline numbers I obviously need before I start hurting my self and others in my unstable mental state.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Your rant is unfocused. I'm not sure it communicates much. Perhaps you could simplify?

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 124 points 1 year ago

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

Hahahaha

[-] livus@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

@roguetrick this is even better than Don Draper "I don't think of you at all."

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Damn, I should rewatch that show. It was goddamn great.

[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 115 points 1 year ago

So ... the German is boycotting the Jewish guy's event over his statements regarding the morality of war crimes. The Onion is doomed, we're out of satire.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No way, dude… have you seen the Onion this week? They are killing it and should be accused of war crimes any minute now.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh they can’t possibly be. They sided with Israel - because it’s politically safer

Lol I just can’t with these people going after Sanders, who is Jewish

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's the wrong kind of Jew.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

They want the placid, malleable kind of jew, not one who has his own opinions.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

They want Zionists, if you aren't a Zionist Jew, what good are you?

[-] Suoko@feddit.it 9 points 1 year ago

He represents 17% of the Jewish population. https://g.co/bard/share/8f756e99642e

It's nice to read a non-biased AIi opinion on the zionism matter. https://g.co/bard/share/81ff92a41241

[-] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

When they said "Be a light unto the nations" they were referring to the white phosphorus***.

***Alleged

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Literally the only American politician with any integrity who stands by his beliefs and ofc he never wins an election. This is why we can't have nice things, because apparently feeding homeless people is communism but subsidising dying fossil fuel industries is patriotism.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't knock the electability anyone who can win senator or governor, particularly for as long as Bennie has held on.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

Saskia Esken is being antisemitic by silencing and shaming Jewish voices

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My father taught me something early on which I paraphrase as "when in doubt, shut the fuck up". Clearly that lady was not taught that lesson.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 28 points 1 year ago

Germany will keep simping to Israel till the end of time. lol Isn't Bernie Jewish himself?

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago

Lunatics take positions like this.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

German politician is against Jew who made a clear stand against war crimes.

Sounds familiar, somehow.

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

According to the IDF, targeting civilians is their right.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

If indeed only this sentence was the reason for Esken to cancel the meeting - it is a clear overreaction. Nobody should be on board with targeting civilians - meaning: they should not get attacked on purpose. Never.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I like that Bernie's response to "eat the rich is" "No, no, no, that's a start, but it's not enough."

[-] nyar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals are very quickly taking a turn into undeniable fascism. I was concerned what might happen when the climate wars truly begin, but now I don't have any concerns, I know.

[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

objectively the moderate wing

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Reminder that Germany never underwent denazification.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

"Social democrat" is just capture of socialistic values, dispersed under the umbrella of liberalism. Social democrats still support new public management, "global markets" and privatisation of everything. In effect they relish in the slavery that these markets impose, a race to the bottom where human life is worth nothing, while pretending they are doing something different.

They are in effect establishment politicians.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Oh no, now she won't be buying any more Bernie Sanderses!

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

The SDP has been a joke for a long time and it will continue to be a joke for quite some time to come.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Yo, fuck the coal nation of Germany.

[-] Isakk86@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Something something glass houses

[-] toastus@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

What are you saying?

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germans generally aren't the best authority on treating the jews, so...

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