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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

FAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTHHHHEEEERRRRRR

[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 60 points 2 weeks ago

Do I wanna know what a tulpa is ?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago

Imaginary friend, basically

[-] tutter 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Plus ritualistically induced psychosis, banger combo must say

[-] vantablack 2 points 2 weeks ago

psychosis and being plural are two entirely different things. they're not even in the same ballpark. saying this as someone who has experienced both

[-] tutter 2 points 1 week ago

Tulpas are created through rituals. If you are a plural person (assuming that means what some call multiple personality disorder), they arent necessarily created through intention, thus Im not referring to plural people at all.

Additionally, the use of ‘psychosis’ is not clinical, its everyday language slang. Im not actually calling people psychotic, id be calling myself that, as i do practice ritual magick every once in a while

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Buddhist spirit that ancient monks would summon along the path to enlightenment

[-] vantablack 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] SCmSTR 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know plurality and things like DID are real. But is tulpamancy a thing? The description sounds like a meme

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Unironically, yes. The brain is really weird about a lot of shit. It's not that difficult to make it believe something if you're committed.

I got involved in this around a decade ago learning a bunch of "brain hacking" stuff. Can confirm, it is real. Can't say it's something I'd recommend to the average person, though. It's a fast track to some major instability if you aren't used to playing around with your own thought processes in detail.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You're more likely to end up with a malevolent trickster entity masquerading as your Tulpa.

[-] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

The first vtuber (I am aware of) debuted in 2016, making vtubers closer to 2012 than 2026.

I'm old...

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

My first exposure to VTubers was the tool bear, who would tell you things about cheap tools.

I was always curious because why did this guy need to use a digital bear skin to talk about tools? And then he quit using the V-Tuber skin and he's just a regular guy, so it doesn't make any sense to me.

[-] logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Looking at graduation video at the start bear was easier than IRL camera/studio/background for a starting youtuber. But problems with vtubing software killed the bear. Boils to: Not having full rights to bears likeness, new versions not adding more features for expert user, old version that wouldn't activate on new pc and new version of software costing more $, or even worse be a monthly subscription.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

He must have been upset a bunch of weebs stole his idea

[-] morto@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

The concept is much older, but just didn't have much popularity

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, so like imaginary friends for adults!

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but where the imaginer has invested so much energy into it that they lose control of it, usually tinged with some sort of mild to moderate mental illness, which may either be a cause or a consequence of creating a tulpa.

[-] vantablack 3 points 2 weeks ago

plurality isn't a mental illness, it's just a nonstandard way of brains working. like being autistic or ADHD

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm friends with My partner's parogen, he's a cool guy. His name is Anthony and he's imaginary-British.

[-] Tetragrade@leminal.space 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My computer mommy could beat up your sky daddy.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sort of, but dumber. At least a tulpa is a display of a quirk of the human mind that it can create an imaginary friend that feels like a different person, and isn't done for the titillation of strangers. Vtubers are just the laziest automation of a ventriloquist act.

They don't learn the subtle art of throwing their voice and looking like they're paying attention, practicing a skill like a magician. They don't even engage sincerely with an esoteric religious tradition like tulpamancers. They just run a software to control the digital dummy and do the exact same thing every other streamer does. Give it a few more years and they won't be anime girls, it'll all be AI Pokimane bodies with AI modulated voice changers played by the 50 dudes who sold their souls, their cars, and their neighborhood children to get ahold of the only 100 consumer graphics cards to leak out of the Nvidia pipeline.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a digital fursuit, it’s gonna be okay

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

At least a fursuit is something someone put real time, energy, and talent into bringing to existence. I have no respect for someone who just runs a piece of software someone else made to change how they look. It's Instagram filters but dumber.

[-] jonathan@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Many (most?) furries don't make their own fursuits.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Then they don't get my respect either. Buying clothes doesn't make you special.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

Furries also do not make their own fursuits.

They pay +1000€ for someone else to change how they look. It's like clothing & make-up but "dumber".

[-] vantablack 4 points 2 weeks ago

have you ever actually been around a vtuber?

those models aren't free. nor are they magic. to get a good one you need to commission somebody or have the extensive knowledge required to create one yourself

so yeah similar to a fursuit in that regard

[-] jimmux@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Some of them are coding their own.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Those few get some credit, but I doubt that's the norm.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The word tulpa has been removed from its original cultural context in a way many people aren't okay with. So the plural community now calls them parogens.

I'm friends with someone else's parogen

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Parogen is just as fucking stupid as the use of tulpa.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

It means intentionally created. In the context of plurality, it makes perfect sense, because it distinguishes parogens from traumagenic, walk-in, and other kinds of system members.

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I work in tech, and one of the things that we learn early on is to not use tech jargon around people who are not also in the tech field because it can alienate them and make them feel stupid.

So while you may have a fully fluent and valid mental construct of parogens and all of the assorted lore attached to that, talking about them as if it were common knowledge to people who have not been exposed to the same information is at best off-putting.

[-] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

tbf half the point of these communities is to be sheltered and insular. being told off by the wider population only drives people deeper within them.

[-] SCmSTR 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, this is true. But I feel like tech is esoteric, whereas metal health and psychology aren't. Plus the stigmas are different.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 1 week ago

Any word we come up with for parogenenis is gonna confuse normies, because the act itself is fundamentally alien to most people's experiences. The only way to explain it is to start with the science.

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It wouldn't cost much to phrase that in a nicer way

[-] vantablack 2 points 2 weeks ago

further reading in case anyone is curious

https://pluralpedia.org/w/Parogenic

this post was submitted on 14 Apr 2026
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