Wait until you find out what they're doing to you through your toilet seat!
I don't actually mind that. I kinda like that. (secretly)
All jokes aside, IoT devices suck.
Why does a dishwasher need to connect to a remote server to use its full functionality? Why does my coffee maker need me to start it using an app? At that point it isn't a feature, it's a dependency that the company behind will eventually shut down one way or another.
手た経消す屋根多雨
I doubt it.
I'd recommend one that's not plastic. (Though I have that same one and use it occasionally.)
My moka pot ain't talkin' to no one.
It only sings a sweet burbling song of coffee to me each morning. And afternoon.
Seriously. I’m not really sure why a coffee maker needs to have any technology. My electric kettle is about the highest tech thing in the whole process.
The steam from the water powers a micro rotor and the coffee acts as an antenna, duh
Water boils. Evaporates to steam. Turbine goes brrrrr.
Kinda relevant here
Eyes his french press suspiciously
Mine said “On ne passe pas!”, so I knew it was one of the good ones.
Bon jour!
If the have "reams" of data on me, good luck reading through it all.
[This is a sarcastically humourous take on the fact that the word "reams" is used, which is a measure of blocks of 500 pieces of paper.]
yeah i was also surprised they printed it.
Shoots coffee maker Americanly. Shoots toaster too, just to be sure.
Do toasters die? I've been using the oven whenever I needed toast do to counter space but like the design of a toaster makes me feel like if you shot a hole through a toaster you might just get a toaster that heats most of the bread, and you just have a circle where it doesnt toast. I guess it depends where you shoot it maybe.
I think if you broke the element it wouldn't work anymore. I honestly just added the toaster because I thought it was funny. I don't even have one anymore. I have a Ninja Flip multi function toaster oven. Lol.
I refuse to have any "smart" appliances at all
I'm fairly certain I don't have any smart appliances. Like I'm not sure what I'd even want them to do. Which probably makes me the dumbest appliance in the house. I can't keep a schedule to save my life, so it's not like I could schedule a coffee pot, and I dont really care for coffee. Maybe a tea pot but like why... Id probably rather just have it cold at that point. Hot beverages are a pain to drink because I'm afraid of burning myself over and over which I've done hundreds of times, so I wait for it to be like luke warm and then it really just defeated the purpose.
I had one fail because my brother didn't know about the release button to it became a fire hazard
I like to imagine the guy who pitched spying on Americans through their coffee makers like "we need to figure out how much coffee Americans are drinking" and everyone in the room was just fully on board with this genius idea.
I was gifted a thermal insulated coffee mug with built-in battery to keep hot. Connects to phone via Bluetooth. Got warnings that the mug would be able to track all 50+ Bluetooth MAC IDs that are in range (I’m in an apt building). That mug will never get turned on or used
Imagine being afraid of a Bluetooth device behaving like every other Bluetooth device ever created.
Except that it sounds like this hooked into an app and sent all the info about those Bluetooth devices to the manufacturer, which some data collectors can use process of elimination to isolate you. Normal (privacy-respecting) Bluetooth devices do not pass this info to the service provider and only your phone uses it to pair with the device.
Sounds more like the app presented a standard request for location access, which is required for scanning nearby devices to be able to find and pair the mug with an app.
E: For the paranoid:
https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/bluetooth/bt-permissions
You are correct that this is normal for the OS. The OS will use this data to determine your location. What is not normal is abusing the Bluetooth permission to send a list of scanned devices to app vendor. They should only be collecting the location, not the raw Bluetooth list. I don’t know what the app is to confirm, but the way they said it, they would be handing all of the local device data along with the standard location permission. This is the extra data that can be used to isolate you more than just a location could.
This is similar to browser fingerprinting, but worse because your phone goes with you everywhere.
One final mention is that the app is likely not collecting that list once, but rather regularly, so they could build a profile on what devices you’re in range of and by extension where you are regularly, even if you chose to disable your location, since they’re using Bluetooth MAC addresses as their workaround.
No one, not even OP, said anything about the info being sent to the vendor. You're arguing about a point that you pulled completely out of the aether and which has no bearing on anything in this thread.
As @Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com said, that's how every Bluetooth device works, but I'm also curious what purpose connecting a mug to a phone via Bluetooth serves.
It's to monitor battery life and adjust temperature, you can usually do both via physical interaction with the warmer, but they offer an app that may display more info or allow more precise control over the temp. Usually the app is completely optional.
No idea, maybe that's where you see the battery level? I like to imagine the coffee mugs are just chatting amongst themselves.
"Ugh Peggy with her fucking black coffee again, we make it through 15 minutes of work and we'll be back in here so we can refill .... Same shit every morning".
"You're telling me, Clyde's been milking his coffee break for 45 minutes now, I doubt he even remembers telling Terry we were going to send him that paperwork"
Are you sure they weren't MUG IDs?
Oooh new vocab, thanks.
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Jīngshéng fēnliè zhèng
Schizophrenia
精神 - mind/mental state
分裂 - split/divided
症 - illness
謝謝（不,我沒有精神分裂症）
Xièxiè (bù, wŏ mĕi yòu jīngshéng fēnliè zhèng)
Thanks (no, I don't have schizophrenia)
Is that why this stainless steel French press needs wifi to work?
Thought that it would be obvious that your $25 smart coffee maker was spying on you.
The US also has reams of data on every American. The difference is America is using to control, capture, and kill people.
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