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[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago

Viktor Orbán has consolidated control over approximately 80% of Hungarian media, alongside capturing the Supreme Court, lower courts, and key government agencies. He has enriched himself and his family while creating a network of loyal oligarchs, most notably his childhood friend, a former gas industry worker now worth over €5 billion through the redirection of EU funds.

Breaking this entrenched system will be a challenge for Magyar.

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago

It is amazing what parliamentary control can do if the party in control is willing to use that power. I hope Magyar actually bothers to exploit his victory.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 10 points 2 weeks ago

Magyar used to be part of Orban's party. Won't it just be a new set of oligarks?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

Not really, there is no oligarch base behind him to speak of, and his party is very heterogenous. Imagine LGBT activists and hardline nationalists together. It would be a miracle - not of the good kind - if he was able to get away with not enacting the anticorruption agenda he got elected on.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

A heterogenous party usually means it's more difficult to accomplish things.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

That's my point, the only easy thing to do is the platform they have the mandate for. They have basically unlimited power to do so.

Usually a heterogenous party is achieved by diluting your message and doing "big tent" and making conflicting promises. Tisza did the opposite, they sharpened their message and made barely any promises, taking great care to limit them to what the whole electorate actually 100% agrees on.

Which includes wealth taxes for the richest and anti-corruption.

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Possibly. The only major policy differences I can see from my distance here in Australia is a general disgust with the corruption and mismanagement under Orban, and a distinct hostility towards Putin. Pursuing both of those will give Magyar plenty to do even if he remains right-wing and a friend of the wealthy.

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Possibly. All you can do is step in the best direction you can see and hope for a better journey.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

He was also a long time critic of Orbán, and he was apparently known for it in the party.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Anyone know anything about the new guy? It's almost surprising that Orbán was willing to concede.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

"What else was I supposed to do short of assasinating the guy?"

[-] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not enough high windows to go fully Russian

[-] fun_times@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I know that this sounds crazy, considering how world leaders usually behave nowadays, but it is possible that he was just kind of tired of being in charge and thinks that Magyar (who does share the vast majority of Orban's values) is a decent enough replacement who won't start any corruption court cases against him.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

Magyar confirmed in his victory speech that he will in fact start those cases.

Or rather the independent juicidary and the new "National Wealth Reclamation Agency" will.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

My money is on a nominal sentence of very flexible house arrest. Or Orban bounces and retires happily to some other country where they don't care to chase him.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

If he does that, he will lose the support of his whole party. We've done that once before, that's how we ended up in this mess.

[-] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

At least he knows when he's beaten, that's worth some credit.

Some people never accept it.

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Still conservative, but EU-favorable instead of deliberately obstructionist. It's definitely a heavy blow to Putin, because this might pave the way for meaningful long-term support (or goodness, perhaps even future EU membership) to reach Ukraine.

Edit: Tangential, but this election has me wondering why I haven't seen much online discourse trying to shame voters for supporting Tisza when they could have voted for the Workers' Party, DK, or the Greens.

[-] aldhissla@piefed.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

On your tangent: it's easy. All the "true" opposition were united against Fidesz, and only vote-sucking Fidesz-collaborationists were running additionally.

The FPTP system put in place 16 years ago demanded this. Hungary will do better after a long overdue electoral reform.

[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

He has belonged to the same nationalistic party as Orban, but he’s more friendly towards EU rather than Russia. It’s an improvement for the European alliance at least.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's actually a good question, he wants wealth taxes and term limits, but waves Hungarian flags around and quotes Reagan.

He's a hardline pro-EU nationalist who likes socialist policies and hates rich people.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

He is a bit more moderate, not a huge difference.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

He made promises of dragging them all through the justice system for corruption and embezzlement. People voted for him because they want to see consequences. I hope it happens.

[-] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

So shines a ray of light in this otherwise dreary world…

[-] erin@quokk.au 11 points 2 weeks ago

WWWW-WHAT?!??!??! FINALLY

now there no putin pain in europe

now there no dictators in EU

now putin cant go money through hungary for his friends

i hope some day it also happen in russia

PUTIN FUCK YOU

[-] erin@quokk.au 4 points 2 weeks ago

i feel dopamine in my head, im really happy that orban failed

because it also support putin's regime in my country

and he putin friend so there no putin and friends money flow to EU

[-] Coconut1233@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget about Slovakia tho

[-] erin@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago

really? didnt know bad things about them

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Even after "JD" "Vance" went to bat for him?

Aw, sad.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Vance really fucked the couch on this one.

[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's a good thing Vance went. I don't think I could have handled an Orban win, so I'm grateful for Vance's contribution.

[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 weeks ago

Cletus Bowman, his birth name amirite?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, his birth name is James Donald Bowman.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

He went through quite a few names apparently, but these days he identifies as "JD" "Vance".

It'd be hilarious if he had difficulties voting under the bullshit laws these assfucks want to create for Americans to squelch the vote.

[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

his birth name is James Donald Bowman.

(courtesy of frongt)

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 weeks ago

thought the JD might stand for Judas Davidovich, maybe

[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

The new minister president is called Magyar? Well done as always, Kojima...

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

nice, I hope Belarus is next.

[-] rangber@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

First Iran, now this? Couch fucker is on a streak right now.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My cynical prediction is that the new government will struggle to hold anyone accountable, will soon have their own corruption scandals and will be out of power before they can fix anything. As we have seen in US and Poland voters are pretty stupid and if they voted for a crook once they will most likely vote for a crook again. There's also a crisis coming, a crisis that will be blamed entirely on the government. I really hope the new government will prove to be extremely effective at prosecuting Orban and his cronies, will fix the system, people will love them and they will govern for the next 16 years but I'm yet to see government like that.

If we're lucky this will help EU send aid to Ukraine and approve new sanctions on Russia. If we're unlucky this will get blocked somehow anyway.

[-] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

iirc the eu funds impounded due to democratic backsliding are worth more than the oil crisis, not to mention they can actually pass the wealth tax immediately with their new supermajority unlike biden's plan and the divided senate

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

How much damage did he do while in?

[-] erin@quokk.au 3 points 2 weeks ago

putin's money transit in EU

corruption

faking prev elections(as im know)

LGBTQIA repressions

ignoring EU

anti ukraine

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
  • taking the quality of political discourse from not great to flinging excrement at each other

  • intentionally dividing society, making the two sides more hostile toward each other and making one part scapegoat for the other, to the point of overusing the word 'traitor'

  • gerrymandering done so extensively that he had to resort to explaining the problems with his very own creation to his voters, because the system magnifies the differences, giving you a 2/3 majority of the seats even by just winning 52%/40% (hence the radical change from government 2/3 to opposition 2/3 over one term).

  • environmental damage to several areas due to covering up the failure of safety measures around various, newly built battery factories. Cadmium, cobalt and similarly dangerous substances seeping into the soil and groundwater.

  • health care system neglected and severely underfunded (soap, toilet paper and/or seats missing from hospitals, workers underpaid, air con not working during the peak summer heat, staffing issues, etc.)

  • education system kept underfunded and dumbed down to get more low skilled workers for the industry

There might be more, but all of the above will take several years (possibly >4 years) to undo, and global economy isn't helping, either - all this after stealing stellar amounts of money and leaving an empty treasury for the next government. I don't have high hopes for anyone trying to steer this back from disaster under just one term.

[-] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t know why I think this, but this man looks a bit like he could be a garbage pail kid.. ?

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