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I feel like im going nuts.We are watching the destructon of a civillian population take place,cheered on by western goverments and media.I just feel sick
Is it really cheered?
Most people only agree that the murders on civilians started by Hamas were absolutely horrible and unnecessary. As for what is coming after I don't think normal people are happy about either.
All western mainstream media and western governments are firmly supporting Israel. So, yes the west is actively endorsing genocide here.
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“But they are allowed to defend themselves” says the Western presidents.
This has nothing to do anymore with defending themselves. This is just another path to their genocide mission.
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Both sides are murdering countless innocent civilians. This whole situation is horrible. There are no winners in this war.
I'm still baffled by what Hamas was thinking this thing would achieve. It's giving Israel the excuse to completely wipe out Gaza. It's one thing to destroy the wall and attack a military base, but murdering entire villages was only going to have one outcome. It's like they wanted the opposite of Palestinian liberation.
They want to go out in "a blaze of glory" rather than fade away. Israel has been clearing them out slowly and nobody is stopping it, but if Hamas provokes Israel into doing it quickly maybe that will generate enough outrage that the world will try to stop it.
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My guess is that they wanted to provoke Israel into attacking, hoping that the rest of the nations in the area would use the atrocities as a justification to attack Israel.
They must know that the support for Palestinians by neighbouring countries has only been limited to lip service by most Arab countries for decades. They're all too happy to buy Israeli tech to spy on their own populations, that's basically the bargain they made to stay in power.
There's basically only Iran and Lebanon that are actual "allies", and that's basically more Iran using those groups to make things difficult for the US, and not anything that would actually help Palestinians.
It makes perfect sense if you read up on the history of the conflict, particularly over the last 30 years.
Palestine's reward for trying to find a diplomatic solution has been Western-sanctioned destruction and massacre every single time. We westerners have largely ignored that their land has been taken, hospitals and infrastructure bombed, news reporters and civilians shot in cold blood, and no meaningful repercussions for any of it. They've even been blockaded for sixteen years.
Think of it like a smaller-scale Tet Offensive. It didn't seem to make a ton of sense for the Vietnamese to launch an offensive against the South Vietnam and their powerful allies either.
And when you consider how unreasonable it is for 1.1 million people to evacuate in a day, remember also that these people aren't allowed out in the first place.
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Yeah there's one universal truth in war: everyone loses. Maybe it's their life, their sanity, their resources, or their supporters, but everyone loses.
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And go fucking where and how?? They all will just catch the train?? A boat?? A really big bus??
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The Israeli military said it would operate "significantly" in Gaza City in the coming days and civilians would only be able to return when another announcement was made.
Famously leaving and returning is very easy for Palestinians and they will have no reservations leaving with a potential of returning.
Yeah there's no way the city isn't just annexed into Israel.
Yeah they are not just going to do that. First they will flatten it and kill anyone who stayed in it THEN they will annex it.
They don't care. They already cut off the water. The Israeli government is hoping to see as many men, women and children dead in the deserts and plains of the region as possible.
Just leave bro! Trust us™
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How the fuck do you evacuate more than 1 million people , where the majority are women and children??
You know, through the border crossings that are all closed. They're just announcing this to claim that they gave people ample warning to leave when inevitably scores of Palestinians end up bombed.
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You can't. Isreal knows this. But by saying "We told them to evacuate" they've now provided themselves sufficient cover for everything that happens after. When civilians get slaughtered on mass they'll just keep repeating "They were told evacuate".
Not to mention the old, the sick and the disabled. On top of that the numerous injured from the bombings.
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Over a million people out of a city in that region is impossible.
Over a million people are going where exactly? Are there camps where they can stay? Where there is water and food? Are their basic needs met? Or are they just expected to walk into the desert, never to return from the shadow realm?
Over a million people who are supposed to stay away while the Israeli military does what exactly? Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield? Because the Hamas is known for playing by the rules, yes? Because they also won’t just leave the city to strike at a later time, right? You understand how terrorists operate? You might have learned one thing or another in the last few decades?
Over a million people who can’t leave the city and will either get murdered by the Israeli military, murdered by Hamas or slaughtered in the crossfire. Israel can say „Told ya to leave the city“ and Hamas will get rock hard at the next generation of desperate people who will be easy to recruit.
But what do I know? You do you. Everyone else seems to know it better and shit just keeps getting worse. Every single decade, this shitfest escalates more and more. People die, politicians condemn, some really like the idea of Jew or Muslims dying. Everyone acts like they did a thing.
This is not the end. We will be here again in ten years. Same shit, only even worse than now.
The impossibility of evacuating all those people safely is the point, Israel wants the civilians to die.
This is the modern Trail of Tears, but since Israel has been predetermined to be the good guy it will be cheered and celebrated.
Meanwhile Hamas is telling people to stay and is actively stopping people from leaving. source
With how messy a evacuation this large and sudden tends to be, stopping it may save lives.
It depends on what Israel does after the time is up though, so that isn't for sure better or worse.
Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield?
They're going to bomb it from a very safe distance. And, if the last week is anything to go by, may 'accidentally' bomb places they've herded everyone into.
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Israel's wet dream, an excuse to displace half of all Palestinians from their land, bomb it all to the ground, if there are casualties; "Hey, you were warned."
Don't get me wrong. Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel, fuck neocolonialism, fuck propaganda/disinformation about baby beheadings and free Palestine!
Don't forget fuck religion. Let's not pretend like that's not a core issue.
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Israel is a terrorist state.
This is barely even a "formality" before a massacre. Israel was looking for an excuse to go all out without any restraint and they got it. It's fucking tragic that these bastards are playing with civilians lives. Fuck both authorities.
Same tactic by israel before. They flat out a building office of AlJazeera & Associated Press back in 2021 with a 1 hour warning. They really dont care if all civilian manage to evacuate or not
Killing journalists, truly a sign of a healthy democracy
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So considering the disproportionate actions against innocent civilians we're seeing Israel do to annex some land, we're surely will see sanctions and economic blocks against them soon right? RIGHT?
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Israel is a terrorist state.
That would be near impossible even if organized.
It literally just feels like a guise so that when humans rights groups or the international community raise questions about it they can be like, "But we warned them!!"
Where are they supposed to go? Egypt closed their border too. Israel wants to kill them and then say "we warned you". The israel government and Hamas need to pay for every citizen that is hurt
After 24 hours Israel will slaughter who is left and pretend like everyone who isn't Hamas had time to leave. This smells like a thin concession so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.
And then many of those who managed to flee end up dying too, since they have nowhere to go.
Also, large crowds fleeing in panic are not exactly save in themselves. And don't even start with people with disabilities.
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I see someone has an Endlösung in mind. It’s hard to escape the impression that maybe it wasn’t intelligence community incompetence that invited this “perl habor”. And the plans for this do feel like they’ve been in some drawer for a while.
Nothing justifies Hamas but likewise, nothing justifies doing this to the many innocent, the children, the babies, the people just happened to be born in the wrong spot. The average age in Gaza is, iirc, below 18
Damn, Isreal really saw what happened in fallujah and went "Ooh write that down write that down"
This coming massacre brought to you by taxpayers like you! Thank you!
I mean, Gaza is larger than just Gaza city so it could be done eventually I guess but the timeline is laughable.
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