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Sam Altman, OpenAI’s CEO and the public face of ChatGPT, has carved out an image for himself as one of the preeminent AI whisperers of our age, whose influence supposedly extends to the White House on the strength of his ideas alone.

Or at least that’s the image he’s managed to cultivate. A new exposé in the New Yorker paints a different portrait, and it’s substantially more vexing. Drawing on interviews with numerous OpenAI insiders who worked with Altman, the article portrays the CEO not as a technical wiz, but as a skilled manipulator— and one with a surprisingly shallow grasp of the AI systems his company is building.

According to numerous engineers interviewed for the article, Altman lacks experience in both programming and in machine learning — a shortage of expertise that becomes obvious when the CEO mixes up basic AI terms.

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[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 259 points 2 weeks ago

CEOs are required to be skilled manipulators. That's literally what their job is, actually.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago

So AI could do their job 10x better?

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unironically yes.

90% of what CEOs do is talk to other CEOs and other C Suite members. Very rarely are they actually subject matter experts, those days are long gone. Externally, they are mascots, internally, they read reports from their underlings and then 'make the final call'.

You may notice that these are things that LLMs actually do a somewhat decent job of, ingesting a wide variety of input info, and essentially transforming it into a compelling narrative.

This is why so many CEOs and C suite are so enamored with, and impressed by 'AI':

Its a better version of what they do, which is essentially professional gaslighting.

C suite tend to be sociopathic narcissists.

This is just literally a verified and studied fact.

So, the sociopathic narcissists are impressed by an automagic gaslighting machine, that is often actually more factually corrrect than they are... but of course the actual facts don't matter to a narcissist, what matters is accomplishing their will.

This is a big part of why they genuienly do not understand why everyone else doesn't 'appreciate' AI the way they do.

They're out of touch, delusional, by way of narcissism.

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[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

I've been saying that since forever. There's exactly one job that can be replaced by LLMs (and maybe a good PR person to show up for physical events).

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 136 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why do people think that the CEO is like the "best employee" at what the company does?? No CEO at any company I've ever worked at has had a basic understanding of the work that I did. They understand "the business" but aren't the ones doing implementation.

And that's "fine" - we have different jobs. Theirs, apparently, has been worth millions of times what I do though...

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 weeks ago

I have a CEO that I respect. I'm in an engineering heavy company and the CEO is anything but that, and he knows it. His background is finance and that's most of his job, and interfacing with government. He delegates effectively and does not insert himself in technical decisions. The one thing he does do is ask a lot of questions. In some respect he doesn't care what the answer is, but he wants to know that we've considered all the angles before he takes our advice. I've been pulled in to a boardroom before because something was on his mind that he wanted to share. One occasion he told me to think about it. He didn't want me to follow up with him, but when it came up at a board meeting he wanted the COO to have an answer, so he was flagging the issue for me. Good guy.

[-] shirasho@feddit.online 30 points 2 weeks ago

This is what a CEO is supposed to do. They are the glue between every department and are supposed to make sure that everyone is on the same page. They ask "what is needed for us to get to this point and how can I help". They leave all functional details to the subject matter experts. They act as guide rails and do not derail the train.

Good CEOs understand that they are worth less than their employees because without their expertise and domain knowledge the CEO has no product to sell.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My CEO has deep technical chops, and has shown multiple times he can get his hands dirty with the rest of the team.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

It's not surprising.

There are brain damaged people out there who still think Elon Musk is a good engineer.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I think he used to care more. I'd also say he was never a good engineer, but he was better at learning what his top engineers were trying to show him and pushing through answers that made sense.

He's since lost any of that touch with reality. The engineers he listened to said no too much. He found right-wing grifters that are now teaching him, and they say "no" a whole lot less than the engineers did.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That whole submarine pedo thing told me he was the type of boss that made unrealistic demands and raged at anyone that pushed back. It was no surprise to later learn that his companies have people whose whole job is to deflect him when he's there so he doesn't get in the way of the engineering.

His whole "yell at advertisers to get them to give him money" was another sign of that. He's used to yes men placating him and flew off the handle when he didn't have power to dictate how others acted, even if they just went back to what they were doing prior the moment he left the room.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

At my old company of about 20,000 employees, our CEO used to travel between our regions to give speeches at our work gatherings. So we'd have to listen to him talk every year or so.

I was constantly amazed listening to the bullshit this guy would spew. He literally founded the company and led it for 20 years - but I firmly believe he had absolutely no idea what it was that we actually did.

We were an IT and management consulting company, so we'd be doing stuff like building applications, systems integrations, change management, or managing programs. The usually consulting shit.

This dude would give these speeches like we were out there solving world hunger.

[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not unusual for founders in highly technical fields to have a good level of expertise in that field. Not mandatory but if you look at Alexandr Wang (scale AI, former engineer), Dario Amodei (Anthropic, AI researcher), Michael Truell (Cursor, computer scientist and International Olympiad in Informatics medalist) the expectation is not unreasonable.

The sales people generally take over later.

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[-] neuromorph@lemmy.world 97 points 2 weeks ago

So the typical Tech CEO. What's new?

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

Not only have I (25 year programming vet) never had a CEO who could code, I've never had a CEO who thought he should be able to code. As a species, they tend to be proud of their leadership chops rather than their ability to actually do anything.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

No C-Suite suit I’ve ever met in my life has struck me as a leader type. I know there’s some out there but they all think that being in charge makes them leaders.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I should have put "leadership" in ironic quotes. Like they say: don't step in the leadership.

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[-] phx@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much. These guys are all marketing with not so much understanding of the tech their hawking

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, yeah...obviously. The amount of CEOs with any technical understanding of what they supposedly manage is just about zero.

And the AI grift is basically on the same level as the Religious grift, supposed spiritual leaders/gurus who convince people that they have some special connection to God/the universe/spiritual realms, etc.

And people eat it up, it's been a thing for literally thousands of years. We are primed to want to belive it, and when it comes with membership in an exclusive club of other "true believers" , that's a winning formula.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Sam Altman also raped his sister apparently

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's a messy situation where nobody other than the two people involved will ever know the truth.

She claims it happened between 1997 and 2006 and she filed the lawsuit 19 years later in 2025. There won't be any evidence remaining other than what she claims to remember. He won't be able to clear his name by providing alibis for something that happened 20-30 years ago. Her family said it didn't happen and that she has mental health issues. She says she has mental health issues due to the abuse. Her ultra-rich brother had been financially supporting her and the claims happened after she asked for more and he refused. The family is siding with Sam, but Sam is also an insanely wealthy and powerful man who is known to lie constantly, so maybe their reason for siding with him isn't because they're absolutely sure he's right. And then there's the fact that he's gay, but sexual abuse isn't necessarily about sexual desire.

I don't think it's reasonable to say he definitely raped her. OTOH, it's also not possible to say he's definitely being falsely accused. It's just a shitty situation.

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 weeks ago

Why is this framed as if it's in any way surprising?

has carved out an image for himself as one of the preeminent AI whisperers of our age

Has he? The only things I ever read about him are that he's a dunce with too much money at his disposal.

a shortage of expertise that becomes obvious when the CEO mixes up basic AI terms.

Is that why he thinks the acronym "GPT" is a trademark that belongs to his company, even though it existed before they did?

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago

Altman is just another tech bro dropout who never completed anything, similar to Musk.

But the skills required to be a CEO are that of a skilled manipulator, why would a CEO waste time coding when he can hire meatbags to do that? The nature of US startups benefits con artists and bullshit artists, because the VC money community is not the STEM community.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Having been in Tech in the last Tech Boom and also in this later one (I was even in Startups some years ago), I can tell you that whilst the previous one was mainly driven by Techies wanting do cool things, this one is entirely driven by grifters with backgrounds in areas like Finance and Marketing.

The present generation of Startup Founders are almost never Technically skilled, rather they're skilled at Salesmanship (most notably, Pitching) and they don't dream of cracking some complex problem, they dream about making a lot of money via an Exit Strategy.

The only surprising thing about Altman not understanding Technology in depth is people being surprised by it.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Your interesting use of Capitalization is odd.

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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

this one is entirely driven by grifters with backgrounds in areas like Finance and Marketing

I worked for startups in the '90s and this describes all of them, too.

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[-] MissesAutumnRains 24 points 2 weeks ago

I heard that Bezos can barely drive a delivery truck, too.

I mean come on, is it really a surprise that the role of CEO is so detached from the actual workings of a company? That's why CEOs can just hop companies without working their way up from the bottom. The role rarely has anything to do with the product or service.

[-] arc99@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

That doesn't surprise me. The guy is and always has been a grifter.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Least surprising thing I've read about him

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The sub header for this paper is hilarious.

"I think there's a small but real chance he's eventually remembered as a Bernie Madoff- or Sam Bankman-Fried-level scammer."

HAHAHAHA, no shit, he may just as well end up in a new league all his own with how much money will burn once this goes belly up.

[-] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago

He Can Barely Code
He can code?

[-] Substance_P@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure he gets the 'vibe'.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

hes basically the version of Musk for AI/coding. plus the trifecta of scammers came from the same place, paypal, thiel and musk, and altman and thiel's gay pool parties.

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[-] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The way I see it, people pushing for AI and robots are the unskilled billionaires who don't want to pay the skilled for their work. Billionaires are useless.

[-] null@lemmy.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

CEOs speak in bullshit and since AI makes up bullshit you could say it speaks their language.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

He's like every other CEO. Doesn't know anything about the stuff they are selling because it's built by someone else. Actually his product is for people like that. They don't need any skill to make something now. Before at least they had to buy it from us

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

This guys a fucking psycho for real. Another robot man with too much money for his own good, or anyone’s good, really.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Why would a CEO have to know how to code? OpenAI has a marketcap of $852B, he can hire has many programmers as the company needs.

[-] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

OpenAI isn't publicly traded, they don't have a market cap.

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[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Failing upward at an immense scale. I see this every day at work, the louder and more incompetent just keep on getting promoted. A social experiment would be to just speak whatever chatGPT vomits up loudly and confidently no matter how ignorant.

[-] SanicHegehog@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] markz@suppo.fi 7 points 2 weeks ago

This should be obvious. It would be an exception if these people knew shit about fuck. Instead of just listening to them, you should maybe check what they have personally contributed to anything. What does Altman's github look like?*

They're all talk, with nothing to show. But then again, have you heard what this doorknob has to say? That we should maybe build a dyson sphere around the solar system?

*I want to believe this is his real account

https://github.com/Sam-Altman

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that the account is 9 years old (from long before he was famous) points to a potential for this being his real account.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not defending Altman, but I’ve been a developer for 15 years and that is what my GitHub looks like too because I don’t spend my spare time programming. I wouldn’t trust a surgeon who did surgery at home. I hate this weird idea that all good developers are developing in their spare time.

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[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't expect a CEO to do any coding. I also don't expect a CEO to be as much of an expert as the PhD level computer scientists, machine learning experts, professors of psychology, neurology, ethics, etc., that his company is employing. It is not possible or even relevant for him to have those skills to the level of the top academics that work for him.

[-] itistime@infosec.pub 17 points 2 weeks ago

A CEO who is clueless about their organization’s nature is at an enormous disadvantage. I think it is too common now. Part of the reason so much sucks ass

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Are you a Boeing executive, by any chance?

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[-] xSikes@feddit.online 6 points 2 weeks ago

Classic Silicon Valley

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

AI guy is bad at coding

surprisedPikachu.jpg

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[-] botanicangular@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

My CEO all up in the codebase but we are a team of 5. I do not envy his many hats.

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