I don’t think he “converted” like that.
You know how the Queen of England never had a drivers license or passport because she’s the one who issues them and it would be silly to give yourself your own passport.
Jesus didn’t convert to Christianity . He was Christianity. It formed around him he didn’t convert.
He didn't. Up until the time of Paul (decades after the Jdog's death), Christianity was a Jewish sect seeking to become mainstream Judaism. It was only then that early Christians shed their Jewish identity.
That's in the story, but in the History, Christianity arose from Greece and Rome, not Judea. It was never a Semitic religion. Instead borrowing elements of that combined with Paganism.
Either way, a Historic Jesus would have died a Jew. The mythological Jesus may do whatever and I'm aware of Christians who'll deny he was ever a Jew.
Why the eagles didn't just take the ring to mordor?
answers we will never know because the author is dead
He never converted to Christianity, he started a religious movement that eventually evolved and, long after his death, came to be named Christianity
I'd say jesus never was christian. His followers were a jewish sect. In 70 CE with the temple of jerusalem destroyed it evolved into gnostic christians, paulician christians and jewish christians.
gnostic faith has quite interesting ideas, it kind of makes a lot of sense too imo. its also a bit concerning about some things. I also heard it would have been the mainline christianity at some point but then something happened and it was branded heresy and we got the current one instead.
Have a look into cather and bogomilists. The "kristijani" and waldenser are also very interesting with their theologie!
This is a semantic argument. I say that Jesus is not a Christian, because Christians are those who follow Christ.
I think that Jesus is a Jewish reformist.
He wasn't, there was no such thing at the time and he refers to himself as a Jew in the bible. Christianity wasn't named until after.
He wasn't. His death was the birth of it around 30-33CE. They were still considered of Jews of Judea but followed the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, and that's how it's referenced in the bible until later revisions.
It was a sect of Judaism until re-written as Christianity.
Once he believed he was the son of god, I guess.
He is his best fan.
When did Metallica become Metallica fans?
They probably were fans of themselves at some point. Why crank out decades of albums you can't stand.
That being said, I think even Metallica quit being Metallica fans at some point before St. Anger
Lars is definitely a fan of himself
President and only member of his official fan club
Just occurred to me that I don't think I've heard anything new from them since St. Anger.
Never - he was a Jewish prophet. Christianity was invented by Paulus.
I grew up a fundamentalist Southern Baptist. In my late teens I started to question. One of the things that helped me drop Christianity was the thought process trying to answer: Who was the first Jew who died and went to hell because they didn't accept Jesus as their saviour?
Because biblically, the Jews were the Chosen People, right? So if you were Jewish, you went to heaven. But according to Christians, you have to accept Jesus now.
So when did that happen, exactly? When was it that the last Jew died and went to heaven, and the next Jew died and went to hell?
For me it was hearing sermons on, and then reading for myself, the Book of Job.
Just awful shit.
when did jesus become a christian?
in a world where dictionary meanings are peak: didn't happen if you consider Jesus as "christ"
a "christ" cannot be a "christ-like".
however, a lot of people have their own meaning of "christian" and could be a point of confusion. e.g., Paula White's "christian" is an oldie-timey version of customs when Jesus wasn't even born yet.
That's kind of like asking 'when did Rogue become a rogue-like?'
He didn't.
yeah, the trappings of a death cult didn't sit well with him, plus the whole cross thing was a real turn off. Imagine if a guillotine had killed you and you come back to see a religion spring up using guillotines as their symbol
he's not a christian yet, but i'm pretty sure i'll be able to convince him before the end of this year
He never existed. He is a figment of a religious groups imagination. He is a fictitious character based on ideas of what a religion needs as a figurehead.
That's incorrect. Virtually all scholars agree that Jesus was a real historical figure, based on many non-religious sources.
Of course most of the stories about him are made up, but the scientific consensus is that he existed.
Could also be an amalgamation of multiple people of a particular movement or philosophy. This happens a lot when you adapt a book to a movie, for example and you end up with characters that are a combination of characters from the original text.
based on many
Yeah I dunno about "many"
Definitely enough for a whole separate Wikipedia article to list them all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus
From that article:
The non-Christian sources that are used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus are Josephus (a Jewish historian and commander in Galilee) and Tacitus (a Roman historian and Senator).
So two. Not "many".
That's what the article calls "key sources". There are many more below (Mara bar Serapion, Suetonius, The Talmud, and more under "minor sources").
At the moment of conception when the roman soldier raped her I guess.
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