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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 156 points 4 months ago

They're not supposed to have both installed.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 63 points 4 months ago

Pipewire is newer and emulates PulseAudio so that it can be used as a drop-in replacement. There's literally a command called pipewire-pulse related to this.

It makes me wonder if they really have both installed or are mistaking Pipewire's emulation for an active PulseAudio installation, and so it's just Pipewire that's acting up.

I'd say reboot, but being in space might be one of those times where that's a non-starter. In which case, they're going to have to get their hands dirty unpicking system hooks and trying to reattach them all again as and when Pipewire's working again, assuming it doesn't do that automatically.

I never had a problem with either Pipewire or real PulseAudio back when that was current. I had motherboard sound physically pop, requiring the purchase of a separate sound card, but never a driver issue, so I can't even imagine what might be going on.

[-] Ghoelian@piefed.social 108 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure this is a meme based on the real report that they had 2 instances of outlook on windows and not real.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Wait, they had two instances of not real? They are learning too much.

[-] Ghoelian@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago

Sorry I am autistic and often don't know how to properly formulate my thoughts into sentences :D

[-] edgarde@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Dad, don't do this in front of my friends. You're embarrassing me.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 124 points 4 months ago

This is a joke right? Yesterday I saw a post that outlook was a problem for them

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 156 points 4 months ago

Yes it’s a joke referencing the two Outlook instances issue, but for Linux people

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Haha thanks. I feel dense in retrospect

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

Sometimes satire is hard to detect in this joke of a reality we’re living in.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Ain't that the truth. Have a good evening!

[-] grue@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago

Real talk, though: why has Linux taken at least five tries (OSS, ALSA, JACK, PulseAudio, PipeWire) to get audio right?!

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 91 points 4 months ago

OSS came first, then got replaced by ALSA after it became proprietary.

PulseAudio is a userspace audio server to which programs connect. It manages audio settings per app, then sends everything to ALSA. JACK is the same but with a focus on low latency.

PipeWire is a modern drop-in replacement for both, and also has support for video on Wayland.

[-] heliotrope@retrofed.com 20 points 4 months ago

And then there's also sndio, ported from OpenBSD. This does basically the same thing as OSS/ALSA.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

That’s the thing about open source. Someone always thinks they can do better

[-] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

That's not a feature thats exclusive to open source though. Circular reasoning like this just distracts from the fact that software just like hardware is constantly evolving, even in personal spaces. Thinking someone can do better has no relevance on the "open source" aspect or the political leaning.

[-] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago

I'm still waiting for the latency to be viable for playing guitar with an audio interface.

[-] Alphare@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I'm using pipewire just fine to do so? I just needed to set the buffer size to something appropriately low and I've had no issues from popewire's side

[-] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago
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[-] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ohhhhhh the newbies don't remember EsounD (~~Enlightenment~~ Enlightened Sound Daemon). Basically, it was an attempt at doing PulseAudio-esque stuff way back in the OSS era. Which is to say, it just supported software mixing of multiple audio sources, because OSS usually only allowed single process to output audio. EsounD was janky and didn't work well, obviously. Probably the neatest thing about it was that it exposed the mixed output stream to any other app, so that made visualisers much easier to make (edit: another thing that newbies in this day and age don't realise, but I cannot emphasise enough how crucial visualisers were for the late 1990s / early 2000s music experience). ALSA basically supported hardware mixing (if available) out of the box, so of course it immediately became my favourite.

[-] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They don’t have the same goals.

JACK is for professional audio.

OSS and ALSA are kernel audio drivers, they’re the most powerful of them all but extremely low level. Everything else, like pulseaudio/pipewire are just higher-level interfaces that feed ALSA audio.

Pulseaudio and pipewire are sound servers.

So really it only took two tries:

OSS -> ALSA

Pulseaudio -> Pipewire

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Systemd just keeps asking me for govt id, I didn't bring it with me to space

Thanks Dylan

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

This is psyop, they run windows up there, their outlook doesn't work, and everyone kinda accepted that.

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago
[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Most of psyops are done via memes nowadays

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[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

I actually had a sound issue the other day. Just no sound, how weird. It worked the day before. Checked wpactl, volumes etc, everything was fine and working. Restarted pipewire, still no sound.

Turns out my external mixer lost power because the powet socket was slightly loose.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Funny thing, but it's windows I got problem sound problems with. Randomly decide to ignore mic, speakers doesn't get out of "phone call quality mod". Every time I need to disconnect then reconnect just for my colleagues to hear me out.

Linux? No problem. Easy effects run perfectly too (except when low CPU availability... But everything at that point gets problems)

[-] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Being in IT with windows 11 is awful.

"Why isn't my mic/audio working?"

Me: "Idk, restart the computer"

"That fixed it. I don't understand, it was just working yesterday. Why did it stop working?"

Me: "Windows 11 sucks..."

Not to mention how awful it is being in a teams call as the IT guy and my mic isn't working because, again, windows is ass

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[-] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 months ago

But on a serious note, mine just jumps up and down in volume randomly

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[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My pipewire seems to have issues with crackling audio and severely dampening my mic and I have no clue why.

Still better than Windows.

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[-] kivihiili 14 points 4 months ago

all the new technology!!

oh, now there is no sound...

[-] Pman@lemmy.org 7 points 4 months ago

For we all live underground

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago

My Mint laptop audio stopped working for a couple months and then miraculously fixed itself this week. I made various attempts to fix it with no luck. It’s either a hardware issue or some obscure software issue.

In the past, I had plugged in a HDMI cable to mirror the screen and couldn’t get the audio working again until I plugged it back into HDMI and switched it back to the internal speakers before unplugging HDMI. Before the audio broke this time, I had connected a USB microphone, so it’s possible that’s what did it.

[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Happened to me on Mint as well. Never resolved it. Using Nobara and Fedora now and never had any audio issues. Seems to be something with how Mint handles audio as I see people mention this a lot.

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[-] epicshepich@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago

My laptop is Mint and it's never given me audio issues. My gaming rig is Nobara and the only audio issue I've had with it is that I forgot to switch the output to the TV.

[-] tjhrulz@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I feel this one. Used to daily drive Linux but due to a work requirement had to switch to Windows several years back. Windows has been getting shittier and shittier and I no longer need to use Windows for work and it only just gets shittier so I just switched to CachyOS and love it. Except the one and only issue I haven't been able to fix is audio. I use a Bluetooth speaker on my computer and it cuts out randomly even using low bit rate audio streams. Tried switching pulseaudio to pipewire because the internet said I could increase the latency and that that would fix it but no dice.

[-] utjebe@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Some Mediatek chips are doing this, that is bt audio cutting out while WiFi doing things. Nothing fancy, 1080p video on YouTube will cause that.

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[-] LorIps@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago
[-] clav64@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

They're just like me! I have no idea which I'm using either.

[-] Kristof@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 4 months ago

Just life, linux just works with audio

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