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[-] AshUchiha@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

FuckDenuvo. Let's see to which lengths they'll go to block hypervisor.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 60 points 2 months ago

This crack sounds too scary to use. Impressive, but scary.

As usual for any DRM company or publisher, Irdeto also claimed that downloading games with the bypass is a security concern, but this time around, the company has a valid point.

Using the hypervisor bypass, even in its latest incarnation, requires users to... [install] a community-made hypervisor (HV) with Windows running on top of it. This HV fakes responses to the checks that Denuvo makes, and runs with higher permissions... than the operating system itself and has full, nearly untraceable access to hardware and software.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you think that’s scary wait til you hear about what it’s circumventing is capable of.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

Nasty stuff I don't want on my computer either. As an amateur, was really hoping the cracks would remove it, not circumvent it...

[-] btsax@reddthat.com 23 points 2 months ago

Wow, wait until you hear about the Intel Management Engine

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Do you have a moment for our lord and savoir Coreboot? Also RISC

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago

Empress building a high end botnet?

[-] JATtho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't touch this without air-gapping the machine it's run on. The funny thing here is that Denuvo can't do much to prevent this hack.

The HV is intentionally malicious and modifies the guest on the fly to archive the Denuvo hack. The hack requires to disable all major security protections in the victim OS, so the HV can more freely poke at the victim kernel. A jne-instruction to check if running under a compromised HV? It's now a nop-instruction.

The HV has access to everything that is plugged in physically, or run on top of it. In theory it e.g. extract encryption keys of https connections from any process in the guest.

[-] morto@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Would running an os in a separate partition just for games mitigate the risks?

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not really? No reason it couldn't just read those separate partitions too

[-] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Well, you could potentially get a cheap office special PC to use as a guinea pig. (Depending on what it takes to run this software)

[-] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

The problem with well-coded malware is it won't execute unless it thinks it's not being watched. And based on everything else in this article, it sounds like you'd also be opening your computer up to other parties exploiting security holes in the process.

So a separate computer might work, but it would have to stay separate.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 56 points 2 months ago

lol, get rekd, malware.

[-] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 55 points 2 months ago

Suck my balls Denuvo

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 34 points 2 months ago

Lmao, fucking fantastic. Hope they crash and burn.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

DRM to prevent copying games without official license has always been a waste of money. It is always just a matter of time until even the hardest DRM measure is broken. Always has been like this. I remember when Ubisoft was very proud of their new fancy DRM shitware that prevented running unlicensed copies of some Assassin's Creed title, only for it to be cracked a month later and the crackers saying "thanks for this interesting challenge".

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Sure, it's always been a question of time, but Denuvo has been very effective for decades. There were very few people who were able or willing to crack Denuvo games before. Publishers really only cared about the initial release anyway, and after a few months, it wasn't worth paying for it anymore so they'd remove it from their games.

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Not only has that always been the case, but that's the only possibility: DRM, on a fundamental level, is just encryption where Bob and Eve are the same person.

(For the uninitiated, the basic problem statement for cryptography is that Alice wants to send a message to Bob without Eve knowing what it says.)

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago
[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hypervisor is too much of a security risk for me to want to use it. I'll either get the game without Denuvo on console, wait for it to be removed, or not play it at all.

[-] misk@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

There is 0 details on specifics of how Denuvo was broken. Article goes into detail why Denuvo is bad and not much more (which is also debatable because vast majority of Denuvo implementations do not cause performance impact).

[-] Damarus@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

A custom driver emulates the environment of an already activated token to the DRM. It's comparable to root hiding techniques on Android.

[-] misk@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

Thank you, I found it - just commenting on how entirely unhelpful this article was.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

FitGirl wrote some decent information about the tactic on their website. There's already repacks specifically marked as Hypervisor repacks.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 19 points 2 months ago

Every single aspect of DRM, whether it is denuvo or otherwise, is either neutral or negative for the end user.

[-] misk@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Correct but irrelevant to what I’ve said, which is that the performance impact of Denuvo is usually minimal. There’s a couple of very bad cases that got a lot of publicity but there’s boatloads of Denuvo games running fine.

It’s cool Denuvo was cracked. It’ll be fixed eventually and the never ending game of cat and mouse continues.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago

article goes into why Denuvo is bad but not much more (which is debatable...

I mentioned why denuvo is bad. I wasn't replying specifically to your argument about performance, because that's only a slice of the reason why denuvo is bad.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Sounds useful for reverse-engineering use but impractical for end users.

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