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The vast data centers that power artificial intelligence are so energy hungry that they’re heating up their surroundings, according to new research. It’s an alarming finding given the number of data centers is predicted to explode over the next few years.

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[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 2 weeks ago

Years ago, I was driving through NY city-ish. We pulled over in a rest area and I saw a sign about turning your engine off. I thought it was the stupidest thing I had ever seen, as did many other people apparently as their cars were idling. Then I got out of my car. I was wrong. The heat was insane. I couldn’t wrap my little head around it. I started doing the engineer math thing because it didn’t make sense.

Doesn’t surprise me at all these massive data centers are creating little heat domes. The cars were bad enough, and they are a fraction of the energy.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

100% of electricity burned turns to heat save light that leaves earth. Gigawatt data center? That's ~650,000 1500w space heaters.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago

i work for a large power company, we have a data center customer that have as many equally sized cooling towers as one of our nuclear power plants.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Pretty soon you’ll just have nuclear plants just to power data centers.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Didn't Microsoft try to pay for a nuclear plant to be recommissioned just to power a data centre or something?

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

There have been several data centers that have bought nuclear plants, including Three Mile Island, they're going to fire that bitch back up, also the Regulators have been disempowered. Propublica on the last part if I recall.

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[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nuclear plants to power data centers to make ai slop to make more need for data centers to feed us ai ad slop...when does it fucking end?

I hope some vigilantes start taking action against these damn wastes of space.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The disease is late stage capitalism, the symptom is a mad dash to trade our natural resources for energy and pollution. The mad dash will continue as long as we're bleeding humanity to keep the shareholders high and dry.

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[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't the largest data center currently something like 100MW? So "only" 0.1GW...65.000 space heaters is still insane though.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago

That currently exist? I believe Colossus is pushing 150MW and aiming for 300. But Gigawatt centers are on the way

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

we were asked 400MW for a new data center, we told them 100MW is the max we could provide for now, and increase later, we have a new natural gas plant soon to enter operation to replace two retiring coal plants, but looks like we're postponing decommission targets to keep demand

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

The planet is fucked.

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[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's 33kWh worth of energy in a gallon of gasoline, and they use 0.3gal/hour when idling, so cars are pumping out 11kWh of heat just sitting there....that's a surprisingly large amount of heat.

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure what you guys are worried about. All that extra heat will just dissipate into the atmosphere and eventually radiate into space. It's not like there's anything in the atmosphere that would interfere with this cycle... right?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

And we would’ve gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling fossil fuels, and cows too!

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 32 points 1 week ago

Coming to a neighborhood near you, bringing the noise, heat, and higher electric bills.

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[-] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

The graphs in the paper show the temperature 1 km away from the data center being 8°C higher and attribute that to heat emitted by the data center. That should start the alarm bells that something isn't right with this paper.

Here's a post going into the problems with it;

https://blog.andymasley.com/p/data-centers-heat-exhaust-is-not?open=false#%C2%A7my-core-claim-this-is-literally-just-measuring-hot-surfaces-of-new-buildings-and-the-soil-and-land-around-those-new-buildings-probably-hasnt-changed-temperature-at-all

[-] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I sometimes work in the building that's in the thumbnail of the article, that's crazy to see.

But that being said, data centers are definitely a negative for the environment and using them for bogus AI nonsense is horrible.

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[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

Its not enough. Donate fire to a nearby data center today to improve its temperature! 

[-] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Strikingly, the impacts weren’t limited to a data center’s immediate surroundings; temperature increases affected areas up to 6.2 miles away, the research found, affecting more than 340 million people.

Huh?

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Air and water move, especially when heated.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

But un a radius of 6 mi? That sounds a bit high.
More close to a city with lots of concrete to store the heat.

[-] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Large data centers can consume over 100 MW of power. Almost ALL the energy a computer consumes is turned into heat, like well over 90%. A home AC unit pulls a little under 1 kW, and I think heating is about the same so that's equivalent to heating over 100,000 homes, except those homes will eventually get warm and stop running the heat. The data center churns all day, every day. Given that, it may be equivalent to all the heat put out in more like 250,000 homes. Data centers produce an ABSURD amount of heat.

Edit: and keep in mind, that's HOMES, not people. Average people per household in the US is 2.5, so that's heating for over 600,000 people.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Sorry to nitpick but doesn't 100% of it end up as heat? Vibrations, light, sounds, radio waves- all a tiny fraction of the power are also eventually absorbed by the environment.
That was my understanding at least

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Yea this makes the methodology super suspect.

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[-] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

Oh, 16 degrees Fahrenheit. Still, thats quite a bit.

[-] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

Only a handful of countries use Fahrenheit, but they're still too arrogant to add the unit. I get not including Celsius because of the target audience, and dropping the unit in conversation but this isn't that

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

If only we could harness the energy of people bitching about not using Celsius we could power the whole world.

[-] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Ahaha. I'm not even bitching about that. I'm doing that pedantic thing that physics teachers do where they point out the number without the units isn't correct

That said, if the US just used SI units...

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

metric is so much more simpler,

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

For temperature, not really. Both Celsius and Fahrenheit are useful for different things.

Fahrenheit is great for what we feel (it's related to body temperature for the high end, and the freezing point of brine on 0).

Celsius is great for cooking, or applications where you care about what water is doing (0 is freezing, 100 is boiling).

Neither uses different scales, like other metric units increasing by 10s (at least, I've never seen anything like kC). If you're doing that, you're using Kelvin, which is a fundamental base temperature, where 0 is actually 0, which makes more sense for physics and math, but is less useful for what we feel.

I think the US should switch, just to make it easier to communicate, and other metric scales actually are better. C and F are both equally useful for different things though. Neither is actually a better scale.

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[-] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago

Would be nice if they built them in cold climates and piped the heat to houses and buildings like the steam era of old.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Tax them enough to install geothermal heat pumps in the surrounding homes.

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[-] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Like the steam era of old"? 🤣

What you're describing is called district heating and is totally a thing in Europe. There actually are data centers in Europe that contribute to their local district heating grid.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Demolish all this useless shit to the ground.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

But won't someone think of the TechnoFeudalists!

Think of all the money they can't spent on hedonism and depravity!

[-] pharceface@retrolemmy.com 18 points 1 week ago

Seeing this kind of news hurts. I’ve had a lifelong interest in computers and technology. I’ve made a career of it and live fairly comfortably because of it. But this makes me certain the positives don’t outweigh the negatives. And I wish we could go back to the 90s/2k when we’re certain this tech would lead to the betterment of the world. Sort of bearing my heart here but technology sucks now.

[-] MattMatt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same, this wave is smearing shit over the technical hobby turned career that I've loved since forever that I can remember. My recent desire to rewind and redo makes me feel old AF.

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[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Why don't they build glass hydroponic vegetable gardens? The heating is free.

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[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

plug the cooling vents of those crapfactories

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[-] Antaeus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Sigh… wasting power, wasting nand chips, hard drives and for what? Aiding climate change.

But at least we can have a hallucinating chatbot.

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

No bro llms are good bro they're so efficient bro trust me.

I need 10 trilllion more bro and it'll be so good i promise.

[-] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sometimes I wish the Epstein class would just mass bomb all us poors already and get it over with. This slow, painful death thing is extremely annoying and stressful.

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Big brain moment. If we stop monitoring it, then problem doesn't exist.

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[-] rogsson@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

We could soon heat entire countries with the heat from these doomsday factories

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

That's fucking insane.

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