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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 82 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone should set it to 1970-01-01.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

In other news there has been a massive uptick in Boomers converting to Linux....

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[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 81 points 2 weeks ago

An init system does not need to know my personal details; it’s for starting programs in a specific order just fuck off with this shit. You don’t even have to capitulate to this stuff and these freaks are out here doing it preemptively like they expect a fucking pat on the head for being first in line to dive tongue first on to that boot.

[-] AcornTickler@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 weeks ago

Systemd isn't an init system. Systemd-init is an init system and it is a part of the systemd suite.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago

Whatever the fuck it is it doesn’t need to know how old I am to do its job.

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 weeks ago

It already has fields for personal information, though, and they're every bit as sensitive as your birthdate. realName, emailAddress, location, and timezone are already in there. The important part is that they're all optional, and you don't have to fill them in at all, or can fill them in with fake data. The system still serves you, not some outside party.

But the timing of it does have a lot of people freaking out about it.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I now fear it will one day be required for services on the internet (as it is by a recent law in California). I want to make that less likely, and more difficult to implement.

Having a principle the majority do not have and refusing to participate means being another step further out of society.

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[-] AcornTickler@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't need to know your age. It just provides a way to take a note of your birth date, only if you want to. The system already has a place to write your name and home address. All are optional and practically nobody uses them.

[-] Yttra@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

And it still doesn't, the blank space does not need to be filled

[-] bruzzard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

...until it becomes a requirement to be filled.

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[-] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't know how old are you, it just remembers a date you tell it. You can give your birthday, but you can choose any other day

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is step 1.

Final step: Scan your passport to verify and populate the date of birth field.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

It has been sold as just an init system to people who argued it's a Katamari Damacy. We now know who was right.

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[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

tell me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected without telling me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago

Enlighten us then. Why would an operating system management tool need to know the age of its user?

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

because whilst systemd-initd is the part that everyone is generally aware of, that’s linked to systemd-logind so that processes can be started as different users… process init, session management, and user management are intertwined

they don’t have to be for sure - sysv init proves that - but in modern linux, they are and that comes with a load of benefits

https://deepwiki.com/systemd/systemd/6-user-and-session-management

https://systemd.io/USER_RECORD/

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

I get that systemd also manages user data. I still fail to see how it needs that DoB.

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 weeks ago

The contents of the field will be protected from modification except by users with root privileges.

sudo my age to a thousand years then; no, thank you very very much

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

or just don’t set it

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[-] RoddyStiggs 37 points 2 weeks ago

My date of birth is FU/CK/YOU

[-] Prox@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

YOU-FU-CK is the better format and this is not debatable.

[-] RoddyStiggs 6 points 2 weeks ago

This guy fucks

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It is just a field. What it contains, if anything at all, is irrelevant.

[-] xcel@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Every step towards making people feel at ease giving personal information away, makes the next one easier.

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

This is step 1.

Final step: Scan your passport to verify and populate the date of birth field.

[-] TomViolence@piefed.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure you think you're smart dropping a short, "insightful" three word post. But you might have missed the constant falling down we've been having in every possible places these last few years. It's not a fallacy when it turns out to be a series of fulfilled plans.

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Patrick is that you?

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[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 2 weeks ago

I remember when this happened for the real name, email and phone number fields.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

No thanks, not the distro I will be using.

[-] rockSlayer 44 points 2 weeks ago

Systemd isn't a distro, it's an init and bootstrapper that underlies several distros

[-] texture@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

they easily might have meant that the distro they will be using has declared they will not implement this

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

If the hyperventilators could read that would be a very good point.

[-] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Look it's mr. Fort Lauderdale again^

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[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

My hate of SystemD is further justified! And you all just called me gray haired and not willing to update with the times!

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Remember when they said "relax, it's just an init system, no biggie"? Pepperidge farm remembers.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

1930-01-01, done. But this shouldn't be a requirement to begin with either.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

good thing it’s entirely optional then!

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

I meant wouldn't be a requirement for the operating system to have built into it.

[-] mech@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a Debian guy so I'll set mine to April 28, 1973.

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