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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 187 points 2 months ago

Just tell your AI agents to reduce the RAM usage and install size by 20% and let them rip. How hard can it be?

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

Simple, NoPilot can just erase all your files. Binaries can't take up memory of they can't be loaded.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago

More like tell your users to only run services in the cloud and not to run anything on their own computers.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago

Instructions unclear, now ~~Chrome~~ Edge webview is running every cloud application as a separate electron process

[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Oh they’re getting there alright….

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Tell AI to download more RAM

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[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 116 points 2 months ago

Amateurs. On my personal pc, windows RAM usage is exactly 0.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 86 points 2 months ago

Windows 11 is not based on a single unified UI framework. Instead, it uses a mix of legacy Win32 components, UWP elements, modern WinUI layers, and web-based technologies like WebView2 and React.

I am reading this as MMC snap-ins and control panel. There is no other alternative to manage these settings outside of PowerShell.

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time? Sometimes I would like to be in Windows update, power settings, Ethernet settings, and printer settings all at once.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

In an OS literally named "Windows " lol

[-] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago
[-] Sparta@piefed.ca 6 points 2 months ago

MacroHard Doors. When one door closes, you're locked in. Why? Cause fuck you, that's why.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can't design UI for shit.

Thankfully, you can still get to a lot of them if you know the name of the control panel applet.

[-] Haquer@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago

Fighting with their shitty "new" UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn't even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Want to see the advanced settings for a network adapter?

Good luck finding it, fucko

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[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft engineers were worried that people missed the joys of MS-DOS and having only one application running at once. Next up, will be the return of base memory versus expanded memory versus extended memory. This ends when they devolve Windows to prove Bill Gates right that 640kB should be enough memory for anyone.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I've got my autoexec.bat and config.sys ready to go.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They decided it because there are so many duplicate Settings pages controlling the same thing.

There are over 12 different places to change USB power save settings

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what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft's army of macbook-using UI "designers" who have to justify their salary so they make up shit nobody wants

[-] chahn.chris@piefed.social 83 points 2 months ago

All at a time where I think I’m actually going to switch to Linux.

I just tried out an install on my laptop and boy does it work well even for gaming.

Windows has, nothing I actually need any more?

It feels really big to really leave Windows for good, but, I think it’s going to happen after a bit more testing of my Linux setup.

[-] Haquer@lemmy.today 52 points 2 months ago

I told myself I'd give Win11 (using tools to uninstall all the bullshit/tracking) for 3-4 months before seriously considering linux. I made it 3 months, got tired of having to re-uninstall shit I don't want every update and just flat out wiped the install and installed CachyOS. It's been perfect, even new game releases like Death Stranding 2 worked out of the box, fuck windows.

[-] chahn.chris@piefed.social 17 points 2 months ago

Aww yeah love to hear these stories!

[-] tankplanker@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

This is why its been announced now. With all the tracking Microsoft has in W11, including being able to track usage to an email account for most, they will have a good idea who has binned windows and who hasn't.

Its this volume of switching that has them worried enough to actually pretend to fix things. I say pretend as its fairly obvious what they need to remove to reduce the bloat on RAM but their business it tied to it now, like concrete over boots on a mafia snitch.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I have a back up SSD with windows on I swap out to play the very few games that still require it that I just can't give up. But I don't have the need to duel boot anymore. I just keep the SSD to scratch my itch

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[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

You say this as if you have been waiting for it?

You, and I both, know they are going to ask Copilot "What can we eliminate in the code base".

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[-] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 57 points 2 months ago

If it worked out, the idle Windows 11 RAM usage would’ve been around 4.8GB

That's still a lot

[-] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 45 points 2 months ago

Considering 8GB systems are back in vogue, that's a fuckload. More than half your ram just going to the computer existing.

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well no, its doing more than just existing, its sending screen shots of your screen to Microsoft, displaying ads, updating advertising ID to allow them to track you across the web, uploading your typing history It all helps shareholders of microslop.

[-] flameleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Last time I booted up Windows 10 it was using around 2.4GB at idle

So Windows 12's RAM requirement is on track to being almost 10GB unless they cut it back by 20%?

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 months ago

Maybe they should try not writing OS code in react. Perhaps they should consider dedicating as many resources to cleaning up code as they do to adding “features.”

[-] alakey@piefed.social 25 points 2 months ago

Ironically the install ISO actually went up in size from roughly 5.5GB to 7.5GB in the recent months.

[-] org@lemmy.org 17 points 2 months ago

All that tracking software is bloated.

[-] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago

Agreed but also have you tried to write a feature with LLMs? It will occasionally just add extra files that do the same thing as one library you already have.

You can even catch it and it will be like oh your right then continue without deleting, so next prompt it decides to use its own library again.

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[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago

There's some very aggressive autocorrect programs that seem to be bloating all their current software. They should start with taking those out.

[-] Baguette 21 points 2 months ago

I wish windows went down a different path. Instead they decided to double down on ads and ai, because shareholders are more important than the actual customers

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Suckers keep using it, so what incentive is there for them to deslopify?

I'd personally rather use a Chromebook than Windows.

[-] Baguette 9 points 2 months ago

The thing is that there are real measurements of the market share of windows dropping. The only reason why adoption of w11 overtook w10 user size is because they made w10 end of life (although there are still ways around)

Unfortunately, some business idiot mathed up that losing users is fine as long as the others get forced onto w11

Windows could have done so much differently. More seamless integration with xbox and cross platform for gaming. Different, easily swappable profiles (windows) for different tasks (basically overhauling desktops, like for art, dev work, etc). Optimizing microsofts enterprise software suite without all the bloat. Not deprecating the idea of android support.

But like all big tech companies, they only see money now

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[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Maybe they should make a really new windows version and not a mix from 7,8,10 patched together.. with all the problems carried + AI coding making things worse.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 16 points 2 months ago

They still haven't been able to replicate functionality in settings compared to control panel. Going from scratch is just gonna get us the rumored win 12 that's only ai

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[-] westo232@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Since NT 4.0 it's just bloat. They never rewrote the whole codebase. It makes sense for backwards compatibility but falls apart when you're installing a driver via 30 years old GUI.

Obvious course of events considering how the commodity PC market is essentially cut off from RAM supply for an indeterminate number of years with no respite in sight. Memory isn't cheap anymore, and if they kept making Windows 11 as they used to it won't be long before PCs in the market are simply left unable to run the OS at all.

[-] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 months ago
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