Thanks I fucking hate it.
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so many better Google alternatives out there:
- https://noai.duckduckgo.com/
- https://ecosia.org/
- https://searx.space/ (pick any of the 50+ instances)
- https://www.qwant.com/
- https://www.startpage.com/
Don't forget Kagi! (though it isn't technically comparable to the others since it's a paid, but without ads one)
I love Ecosia because I love trees and will keep using them until I can afford kagi or something.
But one thing that drives me through the wall.. If I search something in my native language, because I want results that are in my native language, google/bing (which ecosia uses) decides to translate reddit posts for me and Ecosia slaps them to the top of the results. Its rather annoying.
Mandatory reminder: Ecosia plants zero trees unless you click on ads.
Hear hear.
Its the only website in my adblocker whitelist.
I have the same experience and it drives me nuts - if I wanted English results, I'd search in English!
Its such a weird thing to do. Especially when you click the translated link and it opens a page that is not translated. So if they think they are "helping" people who don't know the language, how exactly does it help that they translate the title and half a sentence in the search results.
Ecosia seems to be pushing the aI stuff hard as well, but at least you have to press the obnoxious AI buttons to get it. Still, it refuses to make those buttons optional. Duckduckgo let's you have clean experience without rubbing AI buttons or AI summaries in your face and so does qwant.
I'm sure the trees appreciate the AI sicofancy. /s
Sadly Ecosia is not good for more niche topics or foreign languages. After a few months of use, I went back to Google with &udm=14 😕
Edit: Though with Google now falsifying site titles I'll have to look for an alternative... I wonder if they do the same towards the providers that rely on them, like DuckDuckGo?
https://marginalia-search.com/
Open source and has its own index
Their old version with the 'random' option is the best way to find random, small, niche sites.
https://old-search.marginalia.nu/search?query=browse%3Arandom
What the fuck are we supposed to do when the services we use are monopolies which actively seeks to destroy its competition as well as enshittify itself to a point its unusable :|
Time to start self hosting.
Time to start self hosting
There is simply no usable self-hosted search engine. There are some projects like Yacy or Searxng, but they do not have their own index. And having your own self-hosted index is kind of impossible because you need to save the whole of the web on your own devices to be able to search it.
And pirate. Steal anything they try and sell to you
Point of order, if you mean pirate as in infringe copyright, that isn't stealing.
I mean get a group of friends together and start pillaging Target stores.
Time to start self hosting.
The time was 10 years ago.
And the next best time is now. Kinda like planting trees.
Techbro feudalists are all in on AI. They promised it would replace the human workforce and got initial investments and repeated support from money that should have been smarter then that, but the allure of firing all their workers proved too strong.
Now, they’re sitting on a trillion dollar house of cards. They’ll continue to fail upward. The correction will be delayed as they all move money between each other to cover bad investments.
At least Dutch tulips provided actual value. They could be planted and grow to be something real. LLM “AI” was always a scam.
repeated support from money that should have been smarter then that
Why would you think that? Look around, everything humanity does is absurd
noai.duckduckgo.com
It offers also news search as well as image and video search. Filtering out AI images. Guaranteed AI summary free.
I tried looking for an instruction PDF for some stage lights the other day. No amount of "google-fu" could find the right thing. Links labeled as one model showed stuff for other models when clicked, and the god awful summary that it shoves in your face was just full of contradictions of itself. Google is warm trash water at this point.
I find the same thing with vehicle years, I look for say a fuse box layout for a 1985 c20 truck and I will get nothing but genaric trash or stuff for 2021 model years. I used to be able to use "year" but even that has stopped working. Like how do you fuck model and year up?
Wow. Thats horrible. Google has been a shitty search engine for a while now, but this is even worse.
I quit using them as my main search probably 5 years ago. But I get that most people still use it and most people will be misled.
Awful.
Absolute pricks. "Don't do evil" they said.
AI has biases. News are titled to be biased too. This is grounds for fake news.
Don't, do evil!
~~Don't~~ do evil
Hasn't that been Google's guiding principle for quite some time already?
Apparently this has been going on for a while but The Verge started sounding the alarm 3 months ago. They know most people won't read more than a couple sentences past a headline if they even open the article at all. Confirmation bias is about to go wild
Before long they will use it to just create their own sites. Their own articles. Why replace just the headline. A whole internet of just google ai generated bs. Just search something on Google and everything from there on is ai generated. All results. All pictures. The maps. Everything. Nothing will be real.
If you use anything Google has touched, you’re an idiot.
Man how the hell are we supposed to degoogle so fast. I literally only became aware that they sucked like 2 years after them being cool for most of my life. Getting rid of gmail is going to be tough. There literally isn't a service the equal of YouTube or Gmail.
Snowden was in 2013, bro.
Use a client for video content like Grayjay (gets rid of the ads too).
Look at Tuta Mail or Proton Mail as viable privacy focused alternatives.
at my work, one person decided to start an email group to connect everyone for after hours activities....
only 2 people out of 20 were non gmail accounts
I’ve found ProtonMail to be pretty nice. Easy to import your mail into too. YouTube has been hard though. PeerTube is cool but rather small (feel free to ask my any questions about it though). Ideally we’d be using stuff like Nebula and Patreon to support creators directly, but you can at the very least use a fronted to minimize contact with Google.
They have been evil for over 20 years. What are you on about?
There are many email providers. Like… thousands. Personally, I use Zoho.
Email might actually be one of the easiest to move off of, thankfully!
There's plenty of stuff out there, both free and paid. You can even use your own domain if you have an extra $15 or so a year. A lot of the paid options let you use your domain with them (and then if you ever need to change providers, you can keep your email address). And you can use both webmail and actual mail apps.
Youtube though... yeah, there aren't really any good alternatives for that.
-- Frost
tutamail.com. tuta.com. No phone required. No email required. No forced 2 factor authorization that is an excuse to grab your personal information to sell it. Never again on any of the tech email companies. Never again. I never agreed to give them my phone, they forced me to years after the fact when I needed to get in there suddenly.
What Google is accomplishing with this change is tighter control of their results.
This is disappointing and only serves the interest of Google.
"Hey, we got this new invention that kinda works if you don't stress it too much, so we don't really know what to do with it, but it's hype so we must include it somewhere prominently. Ideas?"
Like reinventing the wheel, only it's "intelligent" now.
"But we already have headlines?"
Of course that does not address the economical/political conspiracies involved here.
AI is a scurge on humanity & our environment, and so is Google. Use other search engines.
Why is Google so determined to cannibalize itself?
Is there any way I can hide AI on Google? I'm using Vivaldi (which is a Chromium browser).
Don't know about Google Search but Duck Duck Go has a specific domain for disabling all AI features. https://noai.duckduckgo.com/
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