Let's be honest, the US was no shining beacon of democracy even before Trump. The system was rotten and everyone knew it. However, those with the power to change it have no incentive to do so. It was basically held up because the poeple in charge had some common decency. At that point it's just a matter of time before someone came along that didn't have this basic decency.
I think the people of the UK should take a long, hard look at how the situation has evolved in the US and decide if they want to change their system to avoid having only two parties dominate the political climate. Ironically, being a monarchy means they are probably more resistant to going down the same route, but I suspect the parties are going to get more radical as time goes on and the royals aren't terribly popular these days.
(Opinion to be taken with a pinch of salt. I am no expert in these things and don't live in either country; We've got our own radicalization and issues with our own democracy.)
the US was no shining beacon of democracy even before Trump
he didnt create that corrupt system, hes just taking advantage of it..
actually he and the other pedo billionaires did help to create the corrupt system who am I kidding?
WWII changed everything about the USA. Everywhere else in the world, manufacturing was bombed to oblivion, the populace unable to rebuild without a coordinated effort from governments and NGOs.
The US became a hub of manufacturing. We exported our culture, and our products, all over the world. Our currency and our language became the standard in business.
Everything since then has been a slow walk backwards, so that the ultrawealthy could exert more control and line their pockets. A return to the "real" American values of exploitation.
I think the people of the UK should take a long, hard look at how the situation has evolved in the US and decide if they want to change their system to avoid having only two parties dominate the political climate.
There are currently 5 parties vying for position here, but your point is still generally true. Hopefully with the rise of smaller parties, we might start to see a move towards a more proportional system, but I'm not holding my breath.
Worldwide, democracy has regressed to its lowest levels since the mid-1970s
I've been saying over and over again here, that it's generally been going backwards since the 70's. This goes for democracy, respect for human rights and minorities, and the peace movement.
And many people here simply don't believe it. (I'm guessing younger ones)
Let’s talk about what this really means, though. Why would that happen?
Could it be anything like:
- Because power is a fickle structure by nature and therefore democracy is an unstable system?
- Because technology advanced so fast that it yields control to whomever sits at its forefront?
- Because society chose not to make theoretical laws for technology that had yet been invented?
- Because (e.g., Russian) state propaganda was allowed to become so powerful that it actually destabilized global democracy?
- Because we were naïvely assuming we had a stable democracy, when in fact we never really did — it just hadn’t been under enough stress to show its flaws?
- Because institutional capitalism with monarch style governance is an economic system that necessarily leads to authoritarianism?
- Because the libertarian value tolerance of debate is an ill founded ideology, and we actually need more intolerance (e.g., limitations on free speech)?
- Because social media is not respected by the masses as the enormous medium of control that it wound up being in actuality?
- …
What’s the next big realization here for mankind?
Americans doing regime changes, mostly
I mean, sure. But shouldn’t something be said about what that means for democracy? Would it be:
“Democracy only works if you don’t try regime changes in foreign states, otherwise it starts to experience a phenomenon where the democracy withers”
…?
I’m doubtful it’s that simple. If it is, then democracy seems rather unstable in its current form. All it takes is one bad leader to trigger a chain reaction toward failure? Again, I’m doubtful.
There’s got to be a bigger story here.
The rich people are in an exclusive club and collude without meeting because what's good for one is good for the other. They've also been a big driving force for change in the world from consumer based economic models to "supplier" based models. IE themselves.
We need a second hippie revolution. And I don't mean the half-assed underground "comebacks" from the late 90s and 2010s, a real movement that actually influences policy.
Lol, the hippies didn't do shit.
Hippies were a CIA OP to distract the left from organising and doing drugs instead.
They're going to let him tear the country apart, and then 25th amendment his ass just after January 20th 2027. That lets Little Smokey take over, and he's still eligible for 2 full terms. Mark my words...
I think they're just gonna kill him. Leaving him alive risks the chance of him sending whatever is left of MAGA after them. It also risks splitting their support base.
Yep, they will prop his rotting corpse up as long as they can, the plan is to having him be the wrecking ball, take all the blame, but by then the fixes are all in for the next one in line.
Not sure if they will foist vance on us, I don't think they believe he can be the front of a cult but by they maybe the power will be consolidated enough that they don't care since he's just a puppet.
The pedofile class doesn’t want democracy
As far as I'm concerned, everyone who is a billionaire has to prove they had nothing to do with Epstein or pedophilia in general.
I feel like that’s reasonable but billionaires should automatically be abolished also
Let them try to get by on $999,999,999.99
If they pinch their pennies, show some restraint on...what was it? Avocado toast, Netflix subscriptions, smart phones, and big screen TVs, they just might get by on a mere penny less than one billion....
I can remember when lots of the reactionary centrists and not a few on the left, oh, and of course, the right wing blow-hards, were playing Tone Police for everyone in 2016, and 2020 and again in 2024: lecturing us all about how uncivil it all was to be talking about fascism in relation to conservatives.
I wonder where all the WELLACKTUALLY guys are now.
not a few on the left,
Nah, was a lot actually. I know a lot of people that were really upset after the election and after the first few months. Then it stopped being a problem. "You're overreacting." "Don't think about it." "We'll be fine next election."
Here is a link to the report: https://www.v-dem.net/documents/75/V-Dem_Institute_Democracy_Report_2026_lowres.pdf
It went from being four weapon manufacturing companies pretending to be a democracy to four weapon manufacturing companies pretending to be a dictatorship.
He's making moves like he's expecting to be around another 50 years when he probably has 10 at the most. I'm way more afraid of who he might be paving the way for.
No way he has 10 years in him. Motherfucker is mentally gone as is. Weekend at Bernie's.
Those red neck scars are an attempt to relieve his dementia with a blood flow stent.
He could die tomorrow. Pandora's Box is already open.
For the remainder of our lives we will see copycat politicians who strip more and more of our rights away when they gain power because they all watched and saw and know they can do what Trump did and more without suffering repercussions.
America put up a big sign letting them all know we are too weak to make them pay. They will take advantage. Why wouldn't they?
Here's a press release from the source org about this:
All right, everybody needs pitchforks and torches. And we need four horses with four long ropes
Why do you think almost the entire cabinet lives on military bases.
Or, instead of the horses, and hear me out, we just need some green saplings maybe 20 feet tall and some rope in a sort of circle around a spot...
.... Okay no really, who ever in their right mind considered us a "liberal democracy"?
Swedens V-Dem Institute, apparently.
No one will grow a ball and stop him, so it's already too late. If you're an American, your life will never be the same.
It's not a single person issue. The entire system is broken. Taking out one leader is not going to fix anything.
But will it make things better? Worse?
Who knows? On one hand Trump's dementia means he's acting erratically. On the other it means that it's harder for the Nazis to follow whatever plan they have for the US. The next leader may stabilize things but the fall of democracy may be even faster.
Weird how everyone who was told they were overreacting are not being told that anymore.
In 1963 they murdered the democratically elected president in front of the whole world. Do you really think we’ve been a democracy since then?
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