We can make fun of conservatives without misogyny
Crazy, i know
We're making fun of conservatives being hypocrites and idiots. Like, how it's not racist to make fun of MAGA immigrants voting for Trump and then being deported.
Making fun of them based on the appearance of their wives/the women in this picture
Look, I dont like them. I am not defending them. But reducing them to their looks just because theyre pieces of shit and implying they're turning men gay. I think it's shitty, because it doesnt hurt only them.
Do make fun of them. Make fun of their garbage opinions, make fun of their terrible choices (like those awful pearl necklaces lol)
Loving the diagram. Keep up the good educational work.
Thanks lol :D I dont usually like risk getting into an argument, but ive unfortunately seen this sort of rhetoric too often :(
This is excellent and you are awesome.
So is a woman insulting a man by saying he's ugly also sexist? I'm struggling to see how it's misogyny, honestly. Like I'm not trying to fight or anything, I just don't get how insulting physical appearance can be misogynistic when men can be ugly too. It doesn't seem to be attacking them because they're women, but because their appearance seems to reflect their souls. Ugly. What am I missing?
Fracture has already made some very good points.
But yes, it can be sexist. If the woman's insults specifically target his worth as a man.
The meme is attacking their appearance, and only their appearance, because they are women. I dont really believe in this "looks reflect the soul" stuff. Some people are the absolute sweetest, yet dont meet societal beauty standards. Some people are shit, yet are considered attractive.
I dont know if you've read some comments in this thread, but there's multiple calling them men. Since they aren't beautiful, they have their womanhood stripped away from them.
They aren't beautiful, so they aren't women. Because to be a woman is to be beautiful.
I dont know how much more obvious beauty being tied to a woman's worth as a woman can get.
But they're ugly because of specific choices they made to wear what ends up looking like a fascist clown costume. They chose this look. They're not being made fun of for things outside their control.
The vitriol and anger that led to those aesthetic choices also led to unhappy marriages. That's the joke as I saw it.
Most people in this comment section are mocking their physical attributes, not their clothes or hair or anything they might have control over.
This meme is directly implying that their husbands would rather sleep with other men, rather than with their wives, because they find them so unattractive.
If thats not your interpretation, then thats not your interpretation, but a lot of other people here read it differently.
I do agree that they make awful fashion choices though
yea if it's implying that men are only worth being with because of their looks, it's sexist, yea. it's not as sexist because there's not a societally ingrained idea that a man's core worth is in his looks. so it's not like it's equivalent. but it's almost like there are different prejudices to different genders
or have you not heard enough people talk about women like they're worthless because of a perceived lack of attractiveness
But are you?
Who's the butt of the joke here?
"Conservative women are so ugly their husbands cheat on them with guys" - that's the joke. That's the whole joke.
there's a documented MAGA look. it's creepy and peak uncanny valley. based on MAGA women trying to all look the same with surgeries, treatments and makeup.
Body shaming is bad, but accepting this is the opposite of body positivity. MAGA women are body shamed to look like that. it's actually sad.
Yea, the Mar-a-Largo face. I think its uncanny, but very evocative of the conservative mindset. I agree that it shouldn't be normalised, though it doesn't seem to me like the women in this meme have had those paticular procedures done.
I am disheartened how ubiquitous plastic surgery, especially "small" ones like botox, have become.
Yeah, some of these comments are super not it.
I actually saw this picture a year ago and was compelled to do the face swap thing.
Yeah this ain't it
true, but even if I was heterosexual, I'd rather go with homies than whatever those things are
People. They're people. Objectionable people with grotesque views, but people nonetheless.
Empathy is the most important part of a person. those people either never had it, or chosen to get rid of it. the reason they look like souless gohuls is because in some very significant aspects, they are.
I don't doubt they hold ghoulish views, but it has nothing to do with their appearance. They look like older women fetishizing a revolting idol while subscribed to white supremacist ideals about youth and beauty. Describing them as "things" is dehumanizing in a similar way as they would likely dehumanize us. The more ideologically revolting members of our species are still people.
fash should be dehumanized though. they aren't people. they are way beyond the paradox of tolerance. accepting them is unacceptable. I'm and way shape or form. everyone in the picture isn't deserving the air they breathe.
Dehumanization is a core mechanism of fascism. It's not possible to eradicate fascism by using its tools. Your statement also stands in stark contrast with your position that empathy is the most important part of a person.
The problem is, we're all capable of atrocities, even if some are much more easily convinced to participate than others. It's an uncomfortable truth of being human. But we have the choice to attack the parts which are actually contemptible - their words and actions. Alienating people based on their physical appearance equally alienates the people who perceive themselves to have a physical similarity, even when they hold entirely opposite views. That collateral damage is neither necessary nor desirable.
do I need to being up the paradox of tolerance.
those women literally want me to die in a concentration camp. any empathy wasted on them is a boon to their fascism and materially hurts those they are trying to kill.
I'm not telling you to tolerate intolerance. I'm telling you that what you have attacked is something entirely unrelated to their intolerance, and actually perpetuates some of that intolerance.
It's not like I'd be spared from concentration camps either, I'm part of a few demographics which have been some of the first targets of fascism too.
No they're not. People have empathy. They care for others. They care for other people.
These are ghouls. They don't care for anyone but themselves and money. They aren't people. They're a waste of oxygen.
Them ladies had no idea they were way past Trump's age limit. The poor hags.
You inspired me to do a search I've considered before.
Ivanka Trump is 44 years old and Melania is 55.
I was surprised, and thought that they were much closer
He prefers his women when their age starts with a 1.
I don't think it's about the age as much as it's about being in absolute control.
Look at Stormy Daniels. He knew he could coerce her into sex because she wanted to be on his show.
He'd rather have a 40 year old he could torture than a 15 year old who'd fight back.
I think this shall be a thing I now post every time I see something like this.
I assume that if you’re a woman and a republican, you hate yourself (and other women/girls). You’re probably unbearable to be with.
Don’t know if it’s because they are all crossdressing men or because they’re ghoulish women both seem fitting
When you hate women, men are the natural alternative.
You'd think they'd be a lot more supportive of trans women, given this. Although I suppose maybe it's their way of being affirming.
Judge people by the content of their character. Not by their appearance.
We can criticize Republicans ugly policies without attacking their hair, faces, bodies.
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