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submitted 2 months ago by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world

In a sensational turn of events in the fight against Chat Control, a majority in the European Parliament voted today to end the untargeted mass scanning of private communications. In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years. Pressure is now mounting on EU governments to respect the MEPs’ vote and bury untargeted mass surveillance in Europe once and for all.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago

Finally some good fucking news. Now let's make it so there's no 2.0 3.0 etc constantly trying to sneak this in - we need to enshrine privacy into real laws.

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago

Yay Europe! Genuinely happy for you folks.

Maybe someday we’ll have freedom and privacy in the US :’)

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago

Halt! You have gone below the mandatory threshold for nationally mandated jingoism. An ICE unit has been dispatched to your location to bring you to the RFK Right-To-Labour camp.

The beating will continue until moral improves.

[-] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 8 points 2 months ago

It's definitely starting to feel like having your rights enshrined on unalterable tablets of stone, but which must be re-interpreted by a half dozen political appointees holding a seance with the founding fathers every few months, may not be the platonic ideal of governance that Americans are constantly telling the world it is.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Do nine men interpret? Nine men, I nod.

[-] BladeFederation@piefed.social 58 points 2 months ago
[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 months ago

I wonder what all these anti-EU russian propaganda bots are going to use now to sow discontent against the EU... lol

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Probably pointing out the imperialism. It’s important to listen to your critics because there can be kernels of truth amongst the bullshit.

[-] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 7 points 2 months ago

russians pointing out imperialism... how ironic

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Nobody said they had to be morally integer...

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

.ml users crying in their commie blocks

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Shit, I've heard so much gear mongoring about this for so long. Also on here.

The EU's stance have never been anything other than no chat control. All everyone else have pointed out are proposals not even reaching the votes, or got voted down.

I get that you are afraid that the EU would do it anyway and pass the proposals. But they never did, and even if it got voted for today, it's not even final and needs to go to the council who is openly against it.

But so nice that this is FINALLY put down.

[-] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 37 points 2 months ago

It's always better to be worried for nothing than not worried for something you didn't pay enough attention to. Even if something fascist has no chance of passing, you should still resist it as loudly and as aggressively as possible, every single time.

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Glad to know. I'd rather be overly cautious than overly careless about privacy, tho (looks across the Atlantic)

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

This is a really naive take - this amendment (which requires message scanning to be targeted) passed with a slim majority and could well have failed. In that case the existing mass surveillance ("voluntary scanning") would probably keep happening at least until 2028.

The council meanwhile is overwhelmingly pro-message-scanning, and they (together with the commission) are the ones who are pushing to break e2e encryption. There will now be talks between the three institutions to decide on how to proceed. Sadly I expect that some "compromise" will be reached eventually.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Says the guy overlooking the other trojan horse of age controls being brought inside the walls. Your analysis is not so good.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

That "trojan horse" is nothing but a paper tiger since age control will be managed in a completely privacy-friendly way. It is a non-issue. So that is why it is being "overlooked"

The check will send nothing more than a yes/no verification, and no other forms of identification.

And the information will be managed by a governmental institute that already has all that information.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

Jesus christ, you are a mark for some con artist with your naivety, no offense bro. Ha.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

If you can't understand the technology behind it, please refrain from calling other people names. It makes you look ignorant.

The EU is very privacy focused, as should be apparent with the post you are literally commenting on.

Your russian propaganda holds no power here. It didn't work with chat control, and it won't work with age verification either.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

gtfo. We all know what age control is in reality. You are playing us, for the oligarchy. Admit it!

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

If you can't understand the technology behind it

it seems it is you, that have no idea how technology works. "open source" won't solve being able to prove it does not send anything more it needs, when the implementations will be black boxes, with obfuscated verification software as is recommended by guidelines governmental projects intend to follow, as you can see in this very long thread

additionally, when the laws are accepted, what will you do if the promises turn out to be lies? protest by not using the internet anymore?

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

sorry but you are so naive

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

A lot of lemmings really hate the idea of democracy actually working somewhere in the world.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, tankies can't handle it.

[-] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 months ago

Why is it possible to vote for something that is against the constitution?

[-] Imaginary_Stand4909 26 points 2 months ago

Yay for the EU! Hopefully you guys get a law that will permanently enshrine your privacy rights (or rights to encrypted chats at least).

[-] jeffep@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

GDPR already exists, but there is no such thing as permanence in politics. Constant struggle

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

There is no such thing as permanent laws. And for good reasons.

[-] Imaginary_Stand4909 1 points 2 months ago

I mean, yeah, I didn't necessarily mean forever. And you're right. But I hope you get some sort of law that is actually enforceable and has a chance of being useful for as long as it lives to defend you right to privacy.

[-] lb_o@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Good News! I was so afraid for our future in Europe.

Losing freedoms in our modern times will lead to just another authoritarian state, which will eventually lead to shit.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago

In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years.

Good news. However shouldn't that also include online age verification?

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

No, those things can be done in a completely private way.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 21 points 2 months ago

The war over civil rights is continuing, no questions but this has been an important vote against the surveillance state ambitions.

[-] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 15 points 2 months ago

Hell yeah! Great to hear that

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 13 points 2 months ago

They've probably realized that American corporations which are ran by the Epstein class get to sift through all the data

[-] Antaeus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Great news!

[-] me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

*Officially

[-] greenbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Europe has pressure to shift the narrative from all systems and institutes have been a part of the parasite class goals, to these concessions. "Noo don't collapse us, we are less rigged". But rigged is still rigged

[-] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe I'm misreading, but it seems like this only applies in the context of sex crimes. I see no reason based upon the wording that they couldn't do it for other things even with this in place

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

No it says they any scanning must be in the context of sex crimes. It's otherwise prohibited.

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