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In a sensational turn of events in the fight against Chat Control, a majority in the European Parliament voted today to end the untargeted mass scanning of private communications. In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years. Pressure is now mounting on EU governments to respect the MEPs’ vote and bury untargeted mass surveillance in Europe once and for all.

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shit, I've heard so much gear mongoring about this for so long. Also on here.

The EU's stance have never been anything other than no chat control. All everyone else have pointed out are proposals not even reaching the votes, or got voted down.

I get that you are afraid that the EU would do it anyway and pass the proposals. But they never did, and even if it got voted for today, it's not even final and needs to go to the council who is openly against it.

But so nice that this is FINALLY put down.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 hours ago

This is a really naive take - this amendment (which requires message scanning to be targeted) passed with a slim majority and could well have failed. In that case the existing mass surveillance ("voluntary scanning") would probably keep happening at least until 2028.

The council meanwhile is overwhelmingly pro-message-scanning, and they (together with the commission) are the ones who are pushing to break e2e encryption. There will now be talks between the three institutions to decide on how to proceed. Sadly I expect that some "compromise" will be reached eventually.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Says the guy overlooking the other trojan horse of age controls being brought inside the walls. Your analysis is not so good.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

That "trojan horse" is nothing but a paper tiger since age control will be managed in a completely privacy-friendly way. It is a non-issue. So that is why it is being "overlooked"

The check will send nothing more than a yes/no verification, and no other forms of identification.

And the information will be managed by a governmental institute that already has all that information.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

sorry but you are so naive

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

Jesus christ, you are a mark for some con artist with your naivety, no offense bro. Ha.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

If you can't understand the technology behind it, please refrain from calling other people names. It makes you look ignorant.

The EU is very privacy focused, as should be apparent with the post you are literally commenting on.

Your russian propaganda holds no power here. It didn't work with chat control, and it won't work with age verification either.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

If you can't understand the technology behind it

it seems it is you, that have no idea how technology works. "open source" won't solve being able to prove it does not send anything more it needs, when the implementations will be black boxes, with obfuscated verification software as is recommended by guidelines governmental projects intend to follow, as you can see in this very long thread

additionally, when the laws are accepted, what will you do if the promises turn out to be lies? protest by not using the internet anymore?

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago

gtfo. We all know what age control is in reality. You are playing us, for the oligarchy. Admit it!

[-] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 33 points 1 day ago

It's always better to be worried for nothing than not worried for something you didn't pay enough attention to. Even if something fascist has no chance of passing, you should still resist it as loudly and as aggressively as possible, every single time.

Glad to know. I'd rather be overly cautious than overly careless about privacy, tho (looks across the Atlantic)

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

A lot of lemmings really hate the idea of democracy actually working somewhere in the world.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, tankies can't handle it.

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