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TIL GNU/linux has 2 clipboards
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Is this applicable for Wayland as well? That link makes several references to X and its ecosystem of tools.
If I understand it correctly, Wayland only specifies a single clipboard but no primary. But most (all?) wayland compositors implement an additional protocol that's also supported by the toolkits (gtk, qt, ...) and programs like wl-clipboard.
So yes, wayland also has clipboard + primary. But no secondary, as far as I found. Though I never used secondary on X anyway.
Ironically neither GNU nor Linux has a clipboard (well GNU Emacs probably has like 37 of them for some reason). "Primary selection" (the other clipboard that people don't tell you about) started off on X11, which of course had to implement by XFree86, which became Xorg, and then it copied (ha ha) by other non-X-related software like gpm and toolkits like GTK when using Wayland.
Emacs's regular clipboard is the "kill ring" which also allows you to retrieve any previously cut/copied text. It also has "registers" where you can store and retrieve snippets of text, which can be considered clipboards when used for this purpose. Registers can be referenced by any character you can type on your keyboard, including control characters like ^D.
This totals... a lot of clipboards.
Btw it makes using other OSs painful when you are used to it...
Not going to lie, I hate the middle click clipboard and disable it ASAP. I really dislike the idea that it copies things without my explicit permission.
I don't believe anything is actually copied until you request it to be pasted. The clipboards in Linux mark where the data is, and don't actually initiate a copy until there's a destination.
Yes. You can test this by selecting something, closing that window and attempting to paste. It won't work. Closing the window removes the information about what was highlighted, so there is nothing to paste. If it were to copy upon selection you'd still be able to paste.
It's one of the things that I hated at first when moving from Windows, but then I got so used to it I just can't live without it. Whenever I use Windows, I would try to quickly copypaste text using selection, doing so for 5-10 seconds, until I realise this is not a thing on this OS.
Ditto. And sometimes I use both the Ctrl+C and middle-click clipboards at the same time, when I want to copy two chunks of text. Like this:
- Select chunk A, press Ctrl+C
- Select chunk B
- Shift window
- Paste chunk B through middle-click
- Paste chunk A through Ctrl+V
Windows and KDE Plasma both have CMD + V to show a list of all things that have been copied. So I always just do Ctrl + C, Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V, CMD + V -> down arrow -> enter. Though on KDE Plasma you will need another Ctrl + V to actually do the pasting after you have selected the value to paste, whereas on Windows selecting the value also pastes it. But the workflows are very similar.
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Lol I have gotten so used to it that I can barely use web terminals that don't support it
I actually like the feature but could you explain how you disabled it? I've tried to merge all three clipboards into one a few years ago and couldn't make it work
KDE has the option to disable middle click paste, so I do that. Out of sight, out of mind
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I use auto scroll a lot, middle click paste is generally an immediate no for me.
How do middle-click-to-paste and middle-click-to-scroll conflict? In Firefox I can click-to-paste if the cursor is over an input field and click-to-scroll anywhere else. Never had any problem with this behavior.
How do middle-click-to-paste and middle-click-to-scroll conflict?
Some of us are clumsy.
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Please stop calling it gun/Linux UNLESS you also use
- Firestone/bus
- chisel/David
- vacuum/Danielle Smith
Etc.
I don't understand a single example you gave. I always call it Linux. But, what?
Linux is the kernel, useless without actual programs to run on it. In general the minimal set of programs to make a Linux system actually useful (cd, ls, cat, ...) are provided by the coreutils package, a GNU project.
RMS, the founder of GNU, was pissed that people were using Linux + his software and simply calling it Linux, so he insisted that the proper generic name for "Linux" distributions was actually "GNU/Linux" (i.e. GNU utilities + Linux kernel).
OP's joke is that we name stuff without specifying their components or needed tools all the time, so we shouldn't bother doing it for Linux.
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Please stop lecturing people about how to talk.
I don't get it, why would you even be mad about someone referring it as GNU/Linux?
In that case it's even just either X org or the wayland compositor that may implement that, not "linux".
Yes, thank you! Just call it Linux.
Mimimimimimi
Sorry? Are you okay?
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But why would you call this linux when this is not linux specific thing anyway
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Neat, he?
It's a pain when you switch between Windows and Linux all the time and you can't do the middle click in Windows.
Tbf, lots of things in Windows are a pain when you're used to Linux.
Correction: Lots more things are a pain...
But on the other hand, many things that you take for granted on Windows are a pain on Linux. For example, if you want to see advertisements, you can't just open the Start menu.
Just simply...At least in Cinnamon, I can mouse over the audio icon on the panel and roll the scroll wheel to change the volume. Last time I tried it on Windows, you had to click the icon first. While that alone doesn't sound like much, the whole OS is like that, needing extra little interactions for basically everything. Now that I'm used to using Cinnamon, using Windows feels like walking in beach sand.
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Is it possible to have have a Windows 10-like clipboard in Mint? Where you can copy multiple stuff with ctrl+c and then press super+v to have a dropdown of things that you copied with a possiblity to pin some of them?
https://gitlab.com/doertydoerk/clipman https://github.com/diodon-dev/diodon https://github.com/CristianHenzel/ClipIt https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
And probably more. Anything than can be done in Windows was available in Linux 10 years earlier.
What your talking about is called a clipboard manager, and there are tons of them out there. All with varying features.
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Oh, that explains why my steamdeck layout randomly pastes text when I'm trying to use a mmb shortcut on my dang browser
And then there is the "clipboard" (copy paste function) in the nano text editor being a third
Vim also has it's own clipboard
You can also configure vim to use the first clipboard (works with nvim but never tested on vim).
works with vim but never tested on vi
It does not work in vi. The + and * register were a vim invention (tested in vim compatibility mode and busybox vi)
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I knew and use this, but I never thought to call it two clipboards :)
Plus I'd never heard of shift-ins, I just used ctrl-shift-c/v in graphic terminals :P
This user, at least, has not touched a mouse in a decade. Young people do not even know what a mouse is.
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Yes and I hate it. Wish I could just turn off such nonsense.
You don't have to use it....
Ohhhhh!!!! IT WORKS!
This will be so usefull in the future.
Wow! TIL too, thanks!
On my arch install with hyperland, clip boards have been by far the hardest thing to setup. I finally got a basic clipboard manger working using clipman and wofi. But tbh I don't really understand how that's working.
My main issues though have been trying to copy from one with vim open to other terminal with vim. Copying from vim elsewhere using y(yank) works fine. Copying elsewhere into vim works great. But vim to vim will not work for me.
Also trying to find a way to make copying text out of a terminal running tmux not so overly complex and tedious.
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Clipboard managers often have an option to synchronize them. There are standalone tools as well, autocutsel for example.
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