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[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 406 points 2 months ago

Lenovo also owns the Motorola phone brand, and they're going to adopt/allow GrapheneOS. I think they know how to grab customers right now, and I honestly like it.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 161 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They're usually also well supported on Linux, and even sell them with Ubuntu and Fedora pre-installed. Generally not a terrible brand.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Is that a good idea for a non tech person* with no Linux experience who absolutely needs to send documents successfully to others the first time without delay or should I just wait until my degree is finished and I am less dependent on document interoperability and have fewer absolute deadlines?

  • My level of technical knowledge is here: if a program or usb device isn’t functioning, I know to check the driver, but I always have to look up what the device manager is called. On the other hand, I am capable of looking things up and following simple instructions, which has to count for something.
[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 months ago

You're as prepared as anyone ever is. Getting good with a search engine is the best preparation.

Also, if that fails? Most distros have a forum where you can ask for help and actually get it.

Document interoperability? LibreOffice works well, and you can save in all the same formats as MS Office and more.

The learning curve is mostly what the new tools and programs are called. But so much stuff actually works better over there in Linux land - VLC, Krita, Blender, Audacity, much more.

Try things in a Virtual Machine! If you really can't give up some of your windows tools, you can try dual-booting, but Windows Update doesn't always play nice with another OS on the machine.

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[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

They were also the first OEM to support steam deck on their handheld (beside Valve).

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Isnt lenovo the company that used to make the rugged military laptops that actually had Chinese or foreign backdoors installed?

Edit: for those interested https://www.investigativeeconomics.org/p/government-still-buying-lenovo-laptops

Edit 2 from a quick search. Lenovo laptops have faced allegations of containing backdoor vulnerabilities that could allow unauthorized access to data, particularly concerning military use. These concerns have led to bans on Lenovo products by various intelligence agencies due to potential cybersecurity risks.

 securityaffairs.com Wikipedia

Lenovo Laptops and Backdoor Concerns

Background on Lenovo's Security Issues

Lenovo, a Chinese technology company, has faced multiple allegations regarding security vulnerabilities in its laptops. These concerns primarily revolve around potential backdoors that could allow unauthorized access to sensitive data.

Notable Incidents

Year Incident Description 2008 U.S. military investigators reported finding backdoored chips in Lenovo motherboards, which allegedly logged keystrokes and transmitted data.

2013Intelligence agencies in the U.S., UK, and Australia banned Lenovo PCs due to backdoor vulnerabilities discovered during testing.

2015The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) charged Lenovo for pre-installing adware that created security vulnerabilities, leading to a settlement.

2016The Pentagon warned that Lenovo computers could introduce compromised hardware into the Defense Department.

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[-] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 208 points 2 months ago

Just a lil nitpick: article is by iFixit who is a Lenovo business partner. So perhaps less objective than one might hope.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 100 points 2 months ago

It seems to me that Lenovo’s repairably is more affected by that iFixit partnership than the opposite. I don’t see anything factually wrong or suspicious in the article.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago

Nevertheless, a conflict of interests is possible.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago

I agree, but like others have said, it bodes well that they're open about this in the article

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago

I use iFixit's guides all the time, so I would hope that their score isn't affected by it. I've seen them as being fairly good at their role.

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

As someone who has changed a laptop keyboard before.

That picture says it all.

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[-] Mexigore@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

They even state it them selves in the article, so it is not like they are trying to hide this. Also they say that this is not the end all be all of reparability, which IMO should merit not then getting a 10/10 but idk what their metrics are.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

This is true, but they're also not wrong that fully-modular USB-C ports is an absolutely huge win. It's one of the biggest things when it comes to laptops these days.

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago

There's a difference between 'repairable' and 'upgradable.' Most of the comments seem to conflate the two. Lenovo isn't doing a Framework.

It's a smart move. Differentiates them from other laptop-makers for corporate IT, who can do the parts swaps themselves. Also smart is associating the brand with iFixit and working to get a 10/10. That'll be what sets them apart from all the others, at least for the next year or two.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The "upgradability" part in a small laptop is questionable to me, anyway.

The GPU is really compromised in that chassis, as having it in a slot compromises cooling big time, and limits how much power it can use. And while I love upgradable RAM for the CPU... it'd be better if they used faster CAMM modules. Many other brands have upgradable SSDs/WiFi.

Swappable ports are awesome, no question.

...But honestly, I'd rather have a smaller chassis, bigger GPU and better cooling right off the bat, like a Zephyrus chassis. And have it reparable, and make the whole motherboard standardized/swappable, but not compromise the chassis so severely by making it modular.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ooh yes baby! As an early Framework adopter who's repaired it already a few times, including a solder job on the board, I am happy to see it. I am getting increasingly angsty about where Framework would go in the future as its VCs crank up the profit knob. Having the biggest real manufacturer in the world introduce an alternative is fantastic. With that said, it also depends on Lenovo actually making parts direct-for-purchase available at decent prices. Without that, repairability serves just as marketing wank.

E: Is that a magnesium body plate?

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 57 points 2 months ago

One thing to highlight: T-series Lenovo laptops are mainstream business products shipped at a huge scale.

This is not a small-scale experimental product for the tinkerers. This may define the biggest laptop segment if it works out well. It might be the first time in a while that something like this hits such a huge market.

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 months ago

That's nice you can replace the charging port without reflowing the motherboard now.

[-] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 44 points 2 months ago

Nice to see this pop up as Apple announce their 5yr plan to flood the world's landfills & scrap yards with 8gb fused ram Neo's.

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

Hasn't Apple been soldering everything to the motherboard for ages now?

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[-] sasquatch7704@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

Happy for them, I'm sure the 100 people that still can afford computers will appreciate it.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago

Thinkpads are usually acquired as enterprise retire their stock, 2 or 3 year old devices for a fraction of the new price.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Thinkpads are generally invredibly cheap due to scale. You can also refurbished last years model for under 400 usd.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Lenovo not dropping the ball on their thinkpad reputation but improving it. Very impressive

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wonder if this will shut up the "they don't make them like they used to" crowd.

Edit: i knew that wouldn't be the case. It didn't need this thread as proof.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 months ago

Well they dont lol, they are super flimsy these days and most stuff is soldered on. Its good if this turns out to be the start of the return to good thinkpads, but i wouldnt get my hopes up yet.

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[-] SpookyCoffee@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago
[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 months ago

Literally. Repairability used to be expected.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ripper job on Lenovo's part; I'd give them flack for using LPCAMM2 instead of SODIMM but honestly, it is ultimately the better choice for laptops and it's totally cool to see it instead of soldered RAM.

Ideally they'd bring back the old keyboard layout based on the T25, but that's more or less nitpicking at this point. The Powerbridge battery system would be cool to see make a comeback and a swappable WIFI module would be cool (they kinda brush is off in the article but I think replacing and upgrading the WIFI module would be a nice thing).

My personal problem are the speakers; although ever since getting my hands on an M1 Pro MacBook I'm kinda spoiled in that regard.

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[-] derAbsender@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Could they please cooperate with Framework and create Universal Joints?

[-] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

At a guess, such cooperation would undermine Lenovo's profit margin and would thus be a non-starter for them.

Enter government regulation, to pinch corporations by the ear and drag them to doing what's right for society.

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[-] JayGray91@piefed.social 21 points 2 months ago

Now if I can buy it cheaper empty without microslop spyware installed on it, that would be great

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 months ago
[-] frunch@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Well i didn't have "Year of the Linux Laptop" on my 2026 bingo card! That's awesome!!

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[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Ok but how long is it going to be supported? If they abandon the idea its just a particularly expensive regular laptop, even if they keep supporting it you're locked into ThinkPads ecosystem. It's not truly repairable until its a standard that doesn't rely on the benevolence of a single company.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 24 points 2 months ago

Thinkpads had 3rd party replacement parts for the last 20 years.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Perhaps do some homework. ThinkPad have dominated in business for decades for good reason

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Think-pad? Pshh, a momentary gimmick.

(My very first laptop was a ThinkPad with 256mb of RAM, 100 years ago. My current laptop is a ThinkPad with 32gb of ram)

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 2 months ago

Does 10/10 mean it's got RAM and drives accessible without needing to disassemble the whole fucking thing?

Nice to see both aren't soldered onto the motherboard, but we've still gone backwards in the last 20 years.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Back in the day every screw on thinkpads had a series of little symbols on them to tell you which ones you needed to undo in order to get to the ram, storage, keyboard, and fans. Without needing a repair manual. I hope they brought that back!

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[-] brie_cheese@piefed.ca 14 points 2 months ago

I've been a ThinkPad user for about 4 years now, got a second-hand T470s running Fedora. It's been an amazing experience! I'm not one for brand loyalty, but (so long as Lenovo doesn't fuck them up) ThinkPads will always be my first choice for a laptop.

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