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BC Gov News- British Columbia is moving to permanent Daylight time (news.gov.bc.ca)
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Praise the sun!

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[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

Favorite little snippet from another take:

In 2019, the provincial government canvassed British Columbians through an online consultation and found that 93 per cent supported ending the time changes that have been in place since 1918. Much of Canada still follows the routine that largely synchronizes with the United States, so the B.C. government decided after the 2019 poll to wait until key trading partners California, Oregon and Washington State agreed to change as well.

This week, Mr. Eby said the provincial government is not prepared to wait any longer and that B.C. will be on Pacific time permanently as of November.

“We are done waiting. British Columbia is going to change our clocks,” Mr. Eby told reporters, adding that he hopes the decision will help nudge U.S. Congress to move forward on adopting a similar change.

Do not wait up for us. Gonna take some time to figure out our problems.

Additionally: Argentina, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Cook Islands, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Georgia, Hong Kong, Iceland, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Macau, Mongolia, Namibia, Paraguay, Russia, Samoa, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, Uruguay, Vanuatu, and most of Mexico have all abolished time changes, and Ukraine in 2024 switched to standard time.

[-] parlaptie@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago

you can't do permanent daylight it would get to hot, you need some night

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

Install some solar panels!

[-] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

wont somebody think of the children??!

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago

Hopefully the rest of the west coast will follow.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago

Seconded

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Thirded, summer time all the time!

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

We did it several years ago in all of Mexico. It's just better.

[-] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

B.C. officially ends time

changes and adopts single time zone

Bit overboard but ok

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago

I just don't understand why we have to change clocks instead of all just agreeing to get up an hour earlier.

[-] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

I mean, it's really not like most people clock in at 08:00 sharp at the factory gate anymore. Where's the problem if school starts a half hour earlier in summer? If one colleague wants more daylight in winter, they should be able to just come in 1-2 hours early and leave early.

I voted for this in the EU referendum YEARS ago, and they just kinda were like "lol, no. Fuck you". Really happy (part of) Canada got it's shit together, but damn, I'm envious. Changing clocks gives me splitting headaches for 2 days every time.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Literally none of the institutions which start at a fixed time (6-9 am) will offset their schedule by one hour. These things are literally written in stone. They don't give a single fuck where the sun is, school starts at 08:30 and work starts at 09:00, from now until the end of western civilization, because doing otherwise would be a logistical inconvenience and sleep disorders are not their problem.

Permanent ST = 1 hour less sunlight after school/work. It's unavoidable unless you have the luxury of making your own schedule, at which point timezone does not matter to you so why are you crusading for the working man to be forever cursed to only see the sun from a cubicle? (I could live with permanent DST but that doesn't seem like the road we'll be going down)

[-] Carighan@piefed.world 7 points 2 days ago

Nice! I'm a programmer, I hate daylight saving time with a passion. Feels like half of all bugs in IT somehow trace to it. 😑

[-] bamboo 4 points 2 days ago

What sorts of issues? It's been common for decades to store time in UTC, and render local time on the client side.

[-] Carighan@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So as s simple example from the system I work with:

Customers can set rolling validities for alerts, e.g., Monday 8-10.

If a customer from a place which currently has DST puts in 8-10 say, CEST, in their browser (6-8 UTC) then they intuitively expect this to still be 8-10 their local time (7-9 UTC) when later winter time rolls around.

But, all data checked for alerts comes in in UTC and different users editing these validities are from different countries, timezones and summer time preferences.

Gets funky really quickly. Especially because the evaluation has to account for the DST shift essentially on a per-recipient DST-when-configured vs DST-when-evaluated basis.
(This is genuinely a simple example, it gets worse 😁)

[-] bamboo 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I've had my share of timezone madness, but usually anytime timezones are involved, the DST doesn't cause too much more extra work (except for potentially creating invalid times in the spring you have to handle).

It's been a while, but i worked on something similar long ago, and the way we did it was in the user's profile, store the TZ identifier, so for example Europe/Berlin. We had alerts for users stored in an alerts table, and there was a column for "last sent" and "next scheduled". Everytime an alert was sent, it would check the user's profile and use the TZ info to generate the UTC time that the next email should go out and update "next scheduled" field with the UTC value. Granted the options for the schedule were fairly limited (every hour, every day, every month), but it worked pretty flawlessly from what I recall.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I manage a bunch of code that has to handle that sort of thing, since no customers have complained I haven't had to check into it. Now that I've typed this I imagine I'll get an issue next week cause last person who did it wasn't so great with that stuff. Seems to work so easier to let it be till it doesn't.

Mostly installed locally but we do have some hosted customers on central servers, either they haven't noticed issues or it works. I'd put money on the former than latter though.

[-] spidertrolled 5 points 2 days ago

Not the person you responded to , but the "render local time on the client side" is the tricky part, especially when the time is in the past or future relative to current. Theres a hundred edge cases to consider and many of them very non-obvious to our feeble linear time oriented mortal minds.

[-] bamboo 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, I'm familiar with the Tom Scott video, but even he says at the end to store data in UTC and use a library like tzdata for rendering, don't do it yourself. I was more curious about what day to day issues were happening because of DST, since that seems like bad implementation, and not an impossible problem that would be causing half of all IT issues.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

You and me both. It's especially fun when you work in multiple timezones and some also have standard or daylight time on top of that. Really adds a layer to that shit sandwich of 12 hour time with 12am/pm confusion too

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

At least they went forward rather than the status quo of 'normal' time

[-] human@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

A lot of medical boards prefer permanent standard time.

https://savestandardtime.com/statements/

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks that's interesting!

Clearly sticking with one is medically better but I don't see much debate about which one - there's a few vague statements that standard time matches the inertia we have biologicaly but I've yet to see a considered argument looking deeper into it, unfortunately.

For those in distant latitudes it's a big deal - and that seems to be where most of us live...

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Does this mean the sun won't start to rise until ~9am in Dec? 💀

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

So much fun for children walking to school in pitch dark.

Bring that standard time or leave it alone. Summer time in winter will be a pain.

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Agreed. Apparently we're the only morning people in this thread 😅

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not a morning person. But I like the roads to be less frozen when I go to work. I like it to be brighter so there are less accidents. And I like kids being able to walk to school with some sunlight in winter.

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fair enough (and I still agree!)

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

Fwiw, you can't see the sunrise from a windowless cubicle anyways. You now get a bit more daylight after work!

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 points 2 days ago

Huzzah! I hope more follow suit.

[-] romanticremedy 5 points 2 days ago

Can ON adopt this too?

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

If only. Ontario said they would only do it if all their neighbours said they would do it too. So all our neighbours said they would do it if their neighbours do it. And their neighbours said “sure! If all of our neighbours will join us”.

We can only hope BC being willing can trickle back eastwards across everyone until we are compelled.

[-] Leather@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yay! Daylight stops at 10-11pm in the summer and daylight starts at 9am in the winter.

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