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[-] estrange_alien@leminal.space 55 points 1 month ago
[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago

This right here. The problems of an inherently individualist society. Or another way of putting it...

Fuck you, you got yours lol

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The internet caused us to forgo our tight communities in exchange for being acquaintances with millions of people.

[-] estrange_alien@leminal.space 18 points 1 month ago

it was not the internet that did that

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago

Two paychecks seems optimistic.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 32 points 1 month ago

Agreed. 2-3 paychecks for the union workers and skilled trades. 0-1 for most others.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 month ago

Lack of worker solidarity. We're too atomized and stressed to support each other through a GS. Hopefully that is beginning to change. I just hope its not too late.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lack of worker solidarity

In theory, the problem of "two paychecks" is solved (at least in part) by working people seizing certain critical means of production for the purposes of mutual aid. So, grocers strike not by closing the front doors but by shutting down the cash registers and handing out food for free. Landlord admins strike by refusing to collect rents. Teachers strike not by refusing to teach but by refusing to grade. Etc.

And if everyone knows this arrangement will be in effect, they can act together as a bargaining unit to threaten the control of the landlord class.

But if they aren't in close communication, because the public forms of media are censored and strictly controlled, then individuals can't express solidarity prior to the strike. And if they aren't in alignment, then you end up with the same "haves" and "have-nots" reproduced across the striking cohort, creating contradictions that landlords can exploit. And if they can't repeat this experiment of communication, trust building, strike, reap concessions, then they can't build momentum of numbers or expand the demands.

Hopefully that is beginning to change

I haven't seen much to suggest it has. Perhaps the soul is willing, but the body public remains weak and emaciated. We still don't have avenues of communication independent of the capitalist class. We haven't built trust between industrial sectors. There's little we can point to that's been successful, much less reproducible.

I just hope its not too late.

It's never "too late". All that changes is the players and the stakes at play.

But whatever comes next, you'd be foolish to believe you'll see both the beginning of it and the end. You'll be lucky to know what you're in the middle of.

[-] Unusable3151@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

nearly a century of coordinated, targeted anti-union operations by corporations and the federal government will do that.

[-] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

More than a century honestly, that shit goes as far back as the 1800s

[-] Unusable3151@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

That's fair. I was mostly thinking about how coordination between the federal government and corporations really ramped up in response to the NLRA

[-] JakenVeina@midwest.social 19 points 1 month ago

Also, the average American barely knowing what a union is, much less being a member of one.

[-] taktoide@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Fear and propaganda.

Generalstrikeus.com

Join your local chapter. Volunteer for mutual aid groups. Help establish a strike fund for your local chapter. Get. Involved.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Enough unions to organize it.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Keep the serfs destutute so they can't organize against the rich, disgustingly lavish aristocracy is a tale as old as time. We're literally seeing ruling philosophies Medieval kings used and people say this is the best system.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 1 month ago

Destitution didn't stop the French, it emboldened them.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 12 points 1 month ago

Isn't that the entire point? lol

Imagine this conversation in 18th century France.

Peasant: Should we do a revolt?

Other peasant: Are you kidding? I'm down to my last loaf of bread over here, no way!

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago

Lack of class consciousness and education in general

[-] Etterra@lemmy.org 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

2? More like half a paycheck. Most people can't even afford to call in sick to work.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

No universal healthcare for when they shoot you in the face with pepper balls or whomp you to a pulp with nightsticks...

[-] LowResBeer@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

No class consciousness, and americans are cowards. Next question

[-] procapra@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only 10% of the US is in a union. Who's going to lead it?

The biggest of those unions I'd guess would be AFL-CIO, which I suppose did a okay job leading the Minnesota strike

Roughly one in four Minnesota voters either participated in the January 23 day of shutdown and protest against ICE, or have a loved one who did...Of those participants, 38% percent stayed off the job, either because they did not go to work, or because their employer closed for the day of action... 45% of voters ​“generally support the call for no work, no school, no shopping as a form of protest.” https://inthesetimes.com/article/labor-general-strike-minnesotans-ice-protest-trump-cbp

Keep in mind those numbers are voters in minnesota, not super great for a bunch of "progressive" people.

Even the national strike on the 30th wasn't terrible, but neither had any economic effect. There just isn't enough organization, especially in key industries. People aren't educated on unions, even in communist circles a ton of us are running around without a clue what good union organizing looks like.

[-] jim_v@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Haha. Joke's on you!

It's the start of the month, so I have three paychecks to live. I'm going to celebrate with drive-thru coffee and avocado bread.

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm in a good union and people would actively die if my power plant went down.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Debt servitude works better than any whip or chain.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Not hungry enough

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

how do 3 men in their 30's not have $500 between them?

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The main obstacle is the average American being brainwashed into thinking they are living the best life possible on the planet and that they too can be a millionaire if only they work 60+ hour weeks while sick.

Essentially same situation as North Korea, just less extreme (at least in some aspects).

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

American sees something American happening Americanly in America: "What are we, a bunch of ASIANS?!?!???"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Workers in DPRK actually have things like housing, healthcare, and retirement. The burger reich is nothing like DRPK.

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