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[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Funnily enough the problem with capitalism is actually that eventually you run out of other people's money.

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Capitalism inherently serves to concentrate wealth since the ones with the money make the rules. As wealth disparity increases and people get poorer they can't buy as much stuff and growth dries up. Then the only way for the rich to keep getting richer is to degrade labour conditions, but that's unpopular so you need to blame a scapegoat and enact a repressive regime to enforce it. That's quite a problem, and it's one which might feel familiar to the astute reader.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

Hey I recognize this happening.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Then the only way for the rich to keep getting richer is to degrade labour conditions, but that's unpopular so you need to blame a scapegoat and enact a repressive regime to enforce it.

I didn't get this part. Please explain?

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The money they collect is the money we pay them minus the money they pay us. If we can't pay them more the only way to get more is for them to pay us less. Gross simplification obviously. Then the typical strategy is to blame immigrants or Jews or whatever for the decrease in living standards, and crack down on anyone who tries to improve things.

Edit: this is sort of a meme-ified version of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall which is the real theory of how economic crises in capitalism come about and not really the same as what I'm describing here, but along some similar lines. It's worth reading about from actual scholars in detail if you're interested in that sort of thing.

[-] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Honestly? Their real plan is to get us to kill each other, and the ones who remain will be kept as slaves (for... multiple purposes). That is why the cost of living keeps increasing; we are becoming more and more violent, and after a lot of deaths, they will “control” the “chaos”.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For anyone interested, here' a short excerpt on this point from a socialism crash course:


Unlike workers, Capitalists make their living, not by clocking in and being paid a certain fixed wage per hour, but through absentee ownership. Their wealth is earned while sleeping, playing golf, or visiting the mailbox to collect pieces of this wage theft, often in the form of stock dividends. A worker's wealth is dependent on the number of hours they can work; a Capitalist's wealth is based on how much absentee property they can accumulate, and as such can multiply infinitely. Some Capitalists earn an average worker's yearly salary in a single night's sleep.

For example, a Copper mine owner neither physically mines the copper, and (living thousands of miles away) likely delegates day-to-day operations to a hired manager. Yet, because they have a piece of paper that says they own it, they get a large cut of everything that was mined: the ultimate free lunch.

A 1983 report by England national income and expenditures found that on average, 26 minutes of every hour worked (or 43% of labor value added) by English workers across a wide range of industries went to various exploiting or unproductive groups, with workers receiving only 57% of their pre-tax productive output as wages1. In other words, at least 40% of the work you do every day is stolen by Capitalists.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 29 points 1 week ago

Giving away 40% of your salary to the state for healthcare and welfare -> Crazy crime incredible inhumane and brutal theft

Giving away 75% of your salary to private companies who do the same things but worse and that don't even ensure you full coverage -> Amazing business Enterprise of freedom choice of Democratic democracy 💀

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

"If you're unhappy, just work for a different company!!"

[-] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

This needs that Drake meme.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ask people what they hate about socialism/communism and they'll describe capitalism.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

The real problem with socialism is that it offends the CIA, and bad things happen to people who offend the CIA.

[-] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

The problem with capitalism is that eventually you run out of other people's money

see: Nvidia-Oracle-OpenAI bubble

[-] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

I also like the response “mfw I’m in a capitalist society and have to choose between shelter and food” when I hear that socialism joke.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 8 points 1 week ago

itt people who don't know who Margret Thatcher was enough to have seen this misattributed/misquoted from her before.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Man I hate it when socialism capitalisms.

[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

What we don't seem to ever run out of is bullshit.

[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I get that it's a meme but 85% is delusional. If you think under socialism we could work 15% as much as we do now and maintain the same standard of living then lol, lmao, etc.

*online leftists coping and seething after food and housing don't just magically spring forth from the earth when you abolish rent-seeking

If you have a Real Job where you interact with the material world it is impossible to believe that 85% of the things you physically make or do are consumed by capitalists.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I get that it's a meme but 85% is delusional. If you think under socialism we could work 15% as much as we do now and maintain the same standard of living then lol, lmao, etc.

*online leftists coping and seething after food and housing don't just magically spring forth from the earth when you abolish rent-seeking

If you have a Real Job where you interact with the material world it is impossible to believe that 85% of the things you physically make or do are consumed by capitalists.

Well yeah, I do actually believe we will work significantly less because many jobs are bullshit, useless and only serve capital. That, and all the over production that ends up in landfills and the ocean because the line must go up.

(Btw I spent yesterday testing sewage samples and I'd do it for free if I didn't need money to survive so miss me with any 'how would we convince people to do gross work' bullshit)

[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why not say 99% if you're just pulling a number out of your ass.

and all the over production that ends up in landfills

Overproducing food is fundamentally good and there is not that much overproduction of other goods. Clothing sure but that is not a massive percent of global labor.

If socialism is that much more efficient than capitalism why is every socialist country not absolutely flourishing with 1 socialist worker reaping the same benefits as almost 7 capitalist workers?

(Btw I spent yesterday testing sewage samples and I’d do it for free if I didn’t need money to survive so miss me with any ‘how would we convince people to do gross work’ bullshit)

if 'people will work for the joy of work' was a reliable way to run an economy wouldn't you see capitalists who aren't reliant on wage labor choosing to work? You don't because economies function by the norm not the exception and most people would rather relax and maybe make art than voluntarily do a shitty job that has an abstract benefit to society.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 days ago

I didn't put any numbers in my reply

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

If you have a Real Job where you interact with the material world it is impossible to believe that 85% of the things you physically make or do are consumed by capitalists.

See, once I started working a "Real Job" I saw just how much surplus value was stolen, and turned to Marxist theory to make cohesive sense of it. 85% isn't an over-estimation, especially if we factor in imperialism. Workers in the imperial core are paid more and exploited less than workers in the periphery.

If you think under socialism we could work 15% as much as we do now and maintain the same standard of living then lol, lmao, etc.

We will probably all work 30-40 hours a week for the next great length of time even in socialism, but with far greater societal guarantees and a less predatory system of distribution.

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

The top 10% of households hold 67% of all wealth. If we assume that every worker produces roughly the same value, that implies ⅔ of value produced by the average worker is being taken.

Of course, 33% is not 15%, but I'd say it's roughly in the ballpark. And in certain cases, there are definitely workers who are exploited to that level.

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