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Usually code contributions by various LLMs are easily identifiable because the agent is the author for the git commit. Mozilla on the other hand seem to be explicitly encouraging unattributed LLM code in Firefox. Also note jakearchibald, Mozillas AI spin doctor whenever devs question their intentions, lying about the reasons for this change. I think their true intentions are to muddy the waters to hide the amount of slop contributions in Firefox.

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[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 133 points 2 months ago

This change is about preventing AI from trying to own the change. A human must own the change.

AI cannot own a Firefox contribution. AI cannot commit code to Firefox. Only a human may do that.

If a human uses AI (or autocomplete / a formatter / a transpiler / whatever else) to help them author code, that doesn't devolve them of responsibility. The human must take ownership and responsibility for the output.

For example, if we later run git-blame on a section of the code, we want to see the human that took responsibility for the code, not some AI.

Firefox's policy on AI code: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/contributing/ai-coding.html

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago

Wait just a minute, that sounds... reasonable?

This won't do! I've already fetched my pitchfork and ignited my torch!

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago

I'm convinced the Brave shills have been posting Firefox misinformation for years

[-] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 38 points 2 months ago

That... Sounds like a good change actually??

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Perfect way honestly. Same philosophy we follow. I don't care how you made the PR, you're responsible for it and you need to be able to defend and explain it. If we get a "I don't know, chatGPT told me this" reject.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 months ago

How many human eyes of experienced programmers will have looked at the code?

A whoopsie in the web browser is significantly worse than in an... I don't know... than in a vibe-coded so-called "AI" framework/social network. /s

[-] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

We can crash rockets without use of LLMs, thank you very much https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_flight_V88

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

It was horse shit when jakearchibald wrote it; its still horse shit now.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

JFC is the new CEO a plant to burn the browser to the ground?

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I would believe you if you told me that. There's not much else to explain it other than incompetence (which I suspect is the actual reason).

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nothing is stopping a human contributor from using AI without attribution already.

Let's say there's an issue and you want to include the original stakeholder about the change. Instead you hit a dead end, annotation says AI but no way to reach the human that initiated the change.

[-] wackyheartfluid@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

I'm really going to miss Firefox

[-] egerlach@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago

While I think that this isn't on target, I believe it to be mis-executed rather than misguided: I think they were trying to support their AI Coding Policy by removing any notion that Claude was responsible for the work (therefore leaving the human responsible). What it does in practice of course is just hide AI-generated code. Since the commit setting can be anything you want, I believe a disclaimer that the commit was assisted by Claude but that the committer is considered the author of the code would be a better choice (and I said so on the thread). I hope they improve their choice.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I have used firefox since it was netscape, so it was a bit sad when I switched to waterfox after they made the bullshit AI announcement. I'm hoping something better comes along but I have little faith it will happen.

[-] Casterial@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I stopped using Firefox because it was slowly becoming a bug filled mess. It's in the trash with chrome for me now

[-] 1984@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 34 points 2 months ago

Likely a Chromium fork made by two teenagers larping as security experts, or a guy trying to sell you NFTs in a very brave manner.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago
[-] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

Please don't recommend propriety software

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Well, in the case of Vivaldi "proprietary soft" is pretty relative. A small part of it's unique UI is proprietary of Vivaldi, but full auditable, means source available not closed source, even modificable by the user (they show you how, at own risk naturally). There is nothing shady in Vivaldi. employee owned cooperative in Norway.

https://vivaldi.com/source/

https://github.com/ric2b/Vivaldi-browser

[-] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago
  1. Without limiting the foregoing, you are neither allowed to (a) adapt, alter, translate, embed into any other product or otherwise create derivative works of, or otherwise modify the Software ; (b) separate the component programs of the Software for use on different computers; (c) reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to derive the source code for the Software, except as permitted by applicable law; or (d) remove, alter or obscure any proprietary notices on the Software or the applicable documentation therein.

https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreement/

Having some source code does not mean it's free software

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[-] potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space 10 points 2 months ago

Is there any browser engine left? Servo maybe?

If the engine starts getting crappy because of these LLMs, I think the internet enshittified to the maximum.

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[-] Runecrush376@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

ill no longer use firefox now... i think vivaldi is better

[-] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

Please don’t recommend propriety software

[-] Runecrush376@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Well i didnt know vivaldi wasnt foss... then ill give librewolf a shot, i have it installed too.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Runecrush376@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, but its a fork without ai slop. It has better privacy functions too.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago

It is not a fork. It is a set of patches on top of Firefox Stable.

[-] belazor@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Waterfox or Floorp?

I don’t use either currently but I’m thinking of switching off the main Firefox browser.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago

Why? They all depend on Firefox.

[-] belazor@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

You commented on the others saying they were not forks, which it seems like these are.

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[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

Was this linked to a specific report or something? I cannot reach it. Does someone have a backup?

[-] gwl 1 points 2 months ago

!waterfox@programming.dev

It's firefox minus the slop

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

LibreWolf for a security and privacy focused version

[-] gwl 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah also a great option!

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