What a weird thing to get upset about. Obviously that isn't a cheesecake and I'm not actually certain anybody's calling it cheesecake, for one thing it would be very liquidy and it wouldn't really hold a cake shape on a plate.
But also, who cares?
Let...people do what they want, if it doesn't impact your life in a meaningful way? This category of hot take is the product of excessive social media and feeling personally attacked by other folks living their lives. It misses so much! Sure, a fad like this may not be correct in all contexts, but the individuals participating and their motivations matter. We can choose to be happy for people trying to be healthier, even if the critical thinking isn't on point.
In my continuing opinion: Protein focus is the least harmful macro to bindge, especially in America. We're in an era of 16 syrup pump frappes and deap fried saturated fat fast food...not to mention the satiating effect of protein to reduce overall calorie consumption.
The protein part needs to be repeated. People in the US (at least) already consume far more protein than required. It's not without risks, as too much protein can screw with your liver and kidneys, and even lead to osteoporosis, among other health issues. Yet companies keep shoving it into everything as if we're in a famine, and people don't seem aware that too much protein can have downsides at all.
People in the US (at least) already consume far more protein than required.
I don't think it's that far above the recommended minimums. CDC data shows that Americans get about 15-16% of their calories from protein, and on a 2500 calorie diet that might mean 100g of protein per day.
There research that there is some benefit up to about twice the recommended minimum before excess protein starts to cause cardiovascular or kidney issues, depending on activity levels.
So for that 90kg person on a 2500 calorie diet, with the American average of 16% of calories from protein, we're talking about 100g of protein per day. Basically in the middle between the recommended minimum (0.8g per kg of body weight or 72g for our 90kg person) and the upper limits of optimum amounts for the very active (1.5g per kg, or 135g for a 90g person).
The protein fad is annoying, but it's probably one of the less harmful issues facing public health in the United States today.
90kg is waaaay above what an average person should weight. 70 kg is much closer to a healthy weight.
I guess obesity has the upside of making protein consumption of USians appear reasonable? Silver lining!
90kg is about the average weight of a European man.
I'm not sure. Unless you are 1.90m tall or very buff, 90kg puts you in the overweight category.
Yeah but gainz bro
Exactly I mean if I don’t eat 5kg of protein per day all my muscles will atrophy immediately
You probably eat enough protein. If you're not actively doing muscle building levels of exercise and are eating a normal western diet you're getting plenty.
When I start biking again as it warms up I'll probably have to intentionally eat some extra protein, solely because I've lost shape over the past year and am (essentially) a vegetarian who doesn't pay attention to macros
People don't realize that you are only supposed to eat an amount of meat with the volume of a pack of playing cards.
A 6oz steak gives you 90% of your daily value of protein.
It's ridiculous a lot of people and their obsession with protein. There is protein in all sorts of foods they get, 10 percent or so of wheat, lots in potatoes, other grains. You aren't going to be lacking eating all carbs even.
Often while they shun fat, which is the important part, without an amount of fat the stomach doesn't feel full and you will overeat. And people get way too much sugar instead of that fat. Fructose, which is half of sugar and 60% of high fructose corn syrup, isn't recognized as food and does not contribute to a full feeling.
Basically people have been misled in nutrition by people trying to sell them stuff, and are too obsessed with protein, not appreciative of fat which is key to a lot of things, and obsessed with getting more protein than a normal diet would provide that we don't really need.
Feels good to read these comments. Wasn't that long ago that I'd get downvoted to oblivion by the protein bros for raising these easy to verify facts.
Too much protein can make you sick, too. It can cause kidney stones, for example. (This only applies to animal protein.)
Baby boomers are convinced they are one meal away from protein starvation.
Boomers? All the “high protein” weird shit I see on social media is Gen Z or maybe millennials making stuff with hard boiled eggs, cottage cheese, and yoghurt and chucking it in a blender.
Yeah it's others now, the boomers have been on the protein kick from 20 years prior though. They may still be doing so but no one cares any longer.
Slightly OT, but I bought a Ninja Creami a couple years ago, excited about all the crazy ice cream recipes and experiments I would find online. Little did I know that 99% of content creators with a Ninja Creami only make disgusting looking protein powder ice cream over and over and over. What's the recipe for chocolate ice cream? Chocolate protein powder. And for vanilla ice cream? Vanilla protein powder. And for strawberry ice cream? Strawberry protein powder, of course. And so on.
I have nothing against adding protein to your diet/recipes but this is just ridiculous at this point.
If you want healthy without it being high protein, look up the chocolate red bean recipe.
Tastes better than almost any full-calorie chocolate ice cream from the store while being much healthier for you. Seriously - it almost could be a meal replacement ice cream.
That is the entire point of the Creami though. To make "atypical ice cream" aka fancy shaved ice.
You could've saved yourself $170 and bought a $30 ice cream maker.
That's not true though, and I don't regret buying it. You can make shaved ice, milkshakes, froyo, sorbets, and (basically) actual ice cream or gelato with a fraction of the work compared to an ice cream maker.
The only issue I have isn't with the machine itself but the way people online are promoting it as only what you're describing. You can absolutely use traditional ice cream or gelato recipes, which I did to pretty awesome results after I realized I wouldn't find that sort of content on YouTube. As long as you have the proportions down for fats, thickeners and sugars, the consistency is almost indistinguishable from the traditional counterpart. You can also find a ton of cool or even gourmet recipes for Pacojet and adjust them for the Creami.
It's a pretty fun machine that actually opens up a lot of options for desserts and culinary experimentation. My point was that the actual waste of 170$ is buying it only to make frozen versions of protein shakes (which will at best always end up as "fancy shaved ice" like you said because those recipes lack the ingredient ratios of actual ice cream).
This feels like a nothing burger to me. If people enjoy yoghurt and biscuits then let them have that. Taste is entirely subjective anyway, and if it reminds them of cheese cake then I guess it does. I personally think Dr. Pepper tastes like liquid cheese cake, and no one can stop me from thinking otherwise.
This feels like a nothing burger to me.
It isn't a burger; it's a cake. Duuhhhh...
Dr. Pepper tastes like liquid cheese cake
Bro, wtf type of cheese cake are you eating?
I remember when Yoplait started putting out a bunch of yogurts that were supposed to taste like desserts and they were better for you because lowfat or something. Now we're doing this crap again but trying to eat a year's worth of protein in one meal as well.
Industrial Agriculture Corporations: "YOU WILL CONSUME BYPRODUCTS FOR A PREMIUM PRICE AND YOU WILL LOVE IT."
This take is confusing from a (central) european perspective. Only the New York Style cheesecake uses cream cheese while the European original uses Quark which is extremely rich in protein.
It is about choice. Want to have healthy similar option. Good! Want to have the original thing? Righto.
But when you ask for a deliciously creamy cheesecake that is absolutely a lot in regard of calories and you get the alternative. That's where is goes wrong.
Mismanaged expectations.
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