All these comments reminded me why we got the personal responsibility to recycle plastic, and the corporations got more incentives to produce and consume plastic. All you tankies need to take responsibility for your voting habits and get out of poor people’s spending habits. You sound like the capitalists. Cut the avocado toast out and the world will change.
Tankies trying not to complete a horseshoe with a group they hate: challenge impossible!
I think you're supposed to switch accounts between comments.
No just wanted to add that in without an edit. It’s just how my brain works. I don’t have 2 accounts. I don’t need a safe space or a chorus. I said what I said. Glad I inspired you enough to comment. Stay mad tankie
Nothing will change until there's jail time for executives.
I’ve pointed out Valve doing basically the same thing; games can’t be priced lower than Steam on competing game storefronts (not Steam key resellers), or Valve will threaten to delist your game. Which would be essentially kill it. And they obviously do this to protect their chunky store fee.
But personal loyalty goes a long way.
I’m trying to reframe the perspective here, not drag into an argument about Valve. A whole lot of people feel good about finding “deals” on Amazon, about Amazon services that have helped them, and especially about the value and convenience the whole platform provides. It’s easy for Lemmy to hate on Amazon, but for the average person, I think this is a harder sell than most of us realize. They’ll dismiss it as the “market working” or California sensationalism or, more likely, just filter it out as noise in their feed, just like most PC gamers would when they read something bad about Valve.
Valve's not a good guy, but your attempt to "reframe the perspective" is lacking a major detail. If amazon were to simply GIVE you the product after you've paid the competitor then it's quite a different story... yet that's what steam will do.
I boycott pretty much all the big corporations. I can’t really boycott Amazon because I am in a super rural part of the US and run a small business. Like most small businesses I purchase a lot of random doodads and thingamabobbers from china. Amazons monopoly on the US post office and their logistic network that gets bulk goods from china to my house is hard to live without. They fix more than prices, the whole economy is stacked in their favor. They basically won globalism and it was bad for the globe.
Valves scope is much smaller and less destructive. They keep their customers due to loyalty and the investment into a steam library.
Yeah, IIRC when a bunch of large corporations got away with doing this in the 1980s and 90s, a lot of us just assumed it would keep happening. Some people have tried raising the alarm about this, but have been shouted down pretty consistently.
Were Boomers in power then? Ah, yeah they took over sitting as president after Regan, so like late 80s/early 90s. They've been sitting as president since, and they're the most spoiled generation there has ever been. So, it makes sense they'd ignore anything with consequences later down the line. Everything was handed to them, then they hiked up the ladder behind them.
oh I just cant wait for the highest profile minor slap on the wrist of the century!
Dont worry guys well give one of the richest men in the world a 100k fine!
Yeah don’t worry. They’ll get a small fine and will appeal and drag it out for years
I cannot express enough how angry I am that people still use amazon. Major cringe when friends tell me all the shit they buy on there. I used it 10 years ago a couple times, never once since then. Its shit, slave labor, and enriches billionaires. No one forces you to use it.
Once all the competitors are gone, they will increase the prices to absurd, heartless levels
Feel free to provide goods to my rural community any time! You can’t believe that poor people have budget consideration and seek the cheapest product?
It’s cringe because it’s affordable and convenient? Whenever I buy something from there I always price compare online and it’s the cheapest hands-down. Some people don’t have the luxury of constantly considering geopolitics and large-scale repercussions when they’re just simply trying to get by.
It super depends on what you’re buying. Personally, I just go without in order to avoid them. The only things I ever buy from Amazon are things I cannot find anywhere else that I need to have, such as water filters for the lead pipes in Montréal.
We don’t have the luxury to ignore how bad Amazon is. Amazon is aware of this and does everything it can to force you to buy from them by under cutting other businesses until competition dries up. Every time I can buy something for a little bit more and skip Amazon that’s a huge a win for everyone from the original supplier, the more local store selling it, and the working class in general.
Edit: Reading and writing more comments, I’m gunna find a way to get those filters from elsewhere even if they cost a bunch more.
No bro water filters from Amazon are unethical, please expose yourself to lead because some guy on lemmy is virtue signaling /s
"some people don't have the luxury of considering whether their product is made from death camp body parts when they're just simply trying to get by"
Jesus H Fucking Christ. How about electing a government that will regulate Amazon instead of comparing poor people who need consumer goods to nazis. This is some tankie ass behavior
You missed the point completely, so I'll lay it out for you: Everyone has to draw a line SOMEWHERE. And when a country whose government sends fascist death squads into the streets is supported by a company, there's a fuckton of lines to be drawn.
There's ZERO excuse for doing business with amazon. No one is starving because they can't shop there. So GTFO with your lazy ass morally corrupt exuses.
Unfortunately, they are a master at driving local businesses out of money. Buying a certain pet food at my local retailer (a franchisee) would be about $30. On Amazon, it's $25 (and sometimes even $15-20, if you do the subscription discount). At the local store, I'd have to pay more and drag the stuff home on my own feet.
It's the Walmart model. A lot of the frustration is that it's a systemic problem where individuals are incentivized against their best interests and the best interests of their communities.
Because shareholders. The Line, must go up.
Thankfully (/s) Amazon has enough money that it's cheaper to bribe politicians than provide a better product. So systemic solutions are that much more difficult.
This is why you shouldn’t buy US
They're BUSTED when someone goes to prison.
For now they're just SLAMMED
Just wait until they get BLASTED in a strongly worded email.
As far as distractions from the Epstein Files go, this is an exciting one.
...did bezos get mixed up the honeypot?..
Can't wait for them to be fined one penny for every $20B made.
Hey now, don’t get your hopes up.
Quickest solution? Stop buying from Amazon. I quit cold turkey and the sky does not fall. I still buy what I need. I am sometimes saved from buying stuff that I don't really need but was easily available. Just stop buying from them. They are the evil capitalism that everyone complains about.
...i place amazon orders maybe a half-dozen times per year, typically hard-to-find specialty items from manufacturers who only offer an amazon storefront...
Not possible for some people, for example I wanted some very basic batteries (LR736), couldn't find it anywhere in the nearest big town which is already 30km away.
Should I order a pack of them from Amazon for 1.8€, should i drive 160km to go buy them, or should I buy it in another online store and pay 6€ shipping? Easy choice no?
6€ is enough for you to give a sale to Amazon and take a sale away from a better business? That’s how cheap your morals are?
You can pay 6€ for shipping today or help amazon finally become the monopolist, and then tomorrow your batteries will just cost 10€.
Another way is to ask at the next electronics store as I'm sure they can order them with their next routine shipment.
I've been telling people to stop supporting amazon for years, but everyone seems to have their reason to keep supporting them. This hopefully will be a good enough reason for people to finally stop shopping on amazon.
I haven't bought anything from amazon in over 12 years. I find everything on the manufacturer's website or eBay. No need to ever use amazon for anything.
There was a time when Amazon was not full of scummy rip-off products, when it was not playing games with prices, when it was not a cloud-computing powerhouse, and you know what happened?
That's right, they crushed their adversaries (retail shopping) and earned billions in profits. They won.
But somehow that's not enough winning, there isn't enough winning until all the value has been vacuumed up from the world.
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